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What's good you guys, another episode of The Renvi Show but this episode was my personal favourite till date. This is a man I've always wanted to speak with, not just because he's one of the top actors in the country today, but because he's one of the most inspiring, most articulate human beings you'll ever come across. He switched to his acting career only after the age of 35. So up till then he's actually tried a lot of different careers and he's found success even there. Out of all the people I've met in my entire career, this man is the most humble, there's a lot to learn from him but I'll tell you what's even more beautiful about him. When I'm doing a podcast, I keep trying to go deep with all my guests but not everyone is able to go really, really, really deep. Baman Irani's answers were even deeper than the questions that I had for him. So if you're up for a very deep, stimulating conversation, if you want to add a lot of layers to your own mind, watch the entire podcast. You're going to come out of this podcast a completely different human being. This is one of those conversations where even I learnt a lot, so I can't imagine what this will be like for the listeners. Enjoy yourselves, this is the most stimulating thing you'll come across on the Indian internet. Welcome to another episode of The Ranveer Show. Before this episode begins, I just want to tell you how excited I am to do this particular one because I've actually seen a lot of content of yours, Mr. Baman Irani. Hey Ranveer, thanks very much. I like people who are enthused all the time. Yeah, I feel I'm a fellow Zoroastrian at heart, grown up around a lot of Parsis and Iranis. You are a Zoroastrian, no? No, people think I am. Come on, just say yes and end the argument. Yes, yes I am. So Ranveer is just what I call myself. We need more Zoroastrians in the world. We're running short of Parsis, so Ranveer is going to be a good one. For sure, Ranveer is going to be a good one. So you know, you kind of play it cool, but you've had an intense story. Your life has been crazy. It sounds intense because you say it in one go. Has it? Yeah, it's not that intense. Oh, you think it was smooth? It was, no it's not smooth. Okay. Whose life is not smooth? What makes your story, which was not smooth, special and special? It's just because I get to face the camera and talk about it. Thousands and thousands of people who have, fabulous meaning unusual stories. Fabulous is a bad word. And for me, their stories are far more exceptional. It's just that I have the opportunity to sit with you Ranveer and talk about it. I want to rewind to the past of Bhavan and I.
Boman Irani'S Life And Career Insights
Boman Iranis Past (02:44)
People know that you worked at your family business early on in life, which was a wafer shop, like it was a chakka na shop basically. Then you transitioned into different careers. You took up photography and you know your stories up on the internet. Like people. Yeah, I'm quite surprised everybody knows about what I've done or do. One thing is important to note that after school the first job that I actually did was that of a waiter, the Taj Mahal. So that I spent a couple of years doing that. I worked in room service and I worked at the bar and I think these are important exercises. They're exercises. It just prepares you for anything because on Christmas night if you're sitting and you're pushing about literally 30 trolleys, you know, lining them up and chucking plates and cutlery and crockery and getting into the washing area because everybody's, you know, taken leave on Christmas night and you're, it just prepares you for any, any kind of hard work. Were you humbled at that phase in your life? I don't know what humbling is. I think it's, you've got to do it. You've got to do it whatsoever. That was your attitude back then? I think so. I don't think, Oh, I'm so humbled. I'm doing, no, everybody does this kind of work. My colleague is doing it. The other guy is doing it. That guy is doing it. What makes me, gives me the right to feel my humble. Yeah. So I said job. You got to do it. Yeah. My, my question to you is you've had so many different careers.
Bomans Career Advice (04:19)
You've seen so many different industries. What's your straight up like career advice after all these careers, which is that you've done considering where you've reached in your life. What's your career advice to a young person? They're going to be the basic bullets. This is not rocket science bullets. Okay. Yeah. Let it be. No magic bullets. That's the first bullet I'm giving you. There are no magic bullets. No cheat codes. There are no cheat codes. There are no shortcuts. And if you want to start from ground level, the first lesson I learned is don't start from ground level, start from underground level. You've got to lay a foundation before you make the building. So I think it's very well. So, so literally my, the first job that I got, someone told me, uh, you want to work in the French restaurant? I said, yeah, aspirational. Sounds good. Right? Say no, start in the basement, go to room service. You you'll, you'll, uh, you'll earn your stripes there. Not there. The stripes are earned down. Not when you get the stripes when, when you become captain. Yeah. But what, what were the stripes on a personal level till, till your feet, the webbing of your feet cracks up, uh, and you feel sometimes that you can't lift your leg to walk. And, and when it comes to a point where you turn on and say, but I have, don't have to walk, I'm supposed to run. Believe me, um, pain, injury, uh, will all, all the, all that disappears. You just do it then because you got to pick up the tree, you go to smile and you got to go. You guys have a rough night. They don't give a damn. They are, they are in a five star hotel on Christmas night expecting the best service. So you can't say, but I can't lift my legs. You just have to keep your goal in mind and keep going forward. It's as simple as that. And what I read about the story about, I think the time you were like 32, 33, um, where you had gone to your plan, this vacation for your family, it becomes a well known this story.
The turning point of Boman Iranis life (06:24)
You're planning on going to UT with your family. And I think you landed up at some super random, desolate hotel. Yeah. Badly planned. See, the thing is it teaches you if you become responsible to your family, you don't ex you don't expect to show them the presidential suite, but you got to give them the basics. Okay. We've taken them for a holiday. Make it look like a holiday. Of course, if with family, it's great because you're together and there'll be togetherness and we can make it work. Yeah. The room is not important, but it cannot be a room where there's no light. Yeah. Yeah. That's depressing. That's not holiday. I got light in my house. That was a turning point for you. It was like a turning point for me. I said, no, no money, money and luxury is not, not the issue. Getting what you set out to do right is the issue. Yeah. So if I went out to get a decent hotel with clean sheets and light, I didn't manage that. So if you didn't manage it, that also means that you did some wrong things before that all the time.
Bad planning or bad decisions (07:32)
So what were those wrong things? Everything like shortcuts thing that, you know, just make a phone call. No, no, no. You do do some research, plan it nicely. Try and see things that are comparative. That was also a shortcut to excited to go on holidays. So took the first option that was available to me. You got it. That's why when I plan my holidays today, I'm travel agents. Sometimes wonder like, God, this guy is, it's a thing with me. It's become a thing with me. Get it right. Yeah. I'm sure because that was a big turning point for you. Yeah. See, it's not about luxury and it's not about comfort. It's about getting what you set out to do right. 100%. What were your mistakes in your twenties?
Mistakes made in the 20s (08:15)
I think when I, when I went to the shop, when I became a shopkeeper it may have been a humbling experience and I was very proud to be, but eventually I worked really hard, but everybody called me Baman Seth. So I mean, and you take that seriously when you, when you get your promotions, you know, I've been promoted. Oh, now I'm eligible for business class. Hey, take it easy. The perks of the job should never become more important than the job itself. So, so I, I took life like, you know, I'm now you've made it. Yeah, but you've not done nothing. You just, you just, you're just doing a job like I'm doing one today.
Doing your job right (09:02)
Yeah. And I mean, you, I, you had like a bunch of career switches after that. Yeah. But again, today, what am I sitting and doing over here? I'm doing a job. I'm sharing, but I've shared it right. Because of course we've got a movie to talk about, but it's job just because your job involves you being on a screen where people you know, there is a certain amount of love and what's the word? Fame. Yeah. That doesn't make it less of a job. It's a job and just treat it as a job. Do you consider yourself a must do somewhere in a sense in a sense? Yeah. So I want to ask you, what gave you that fire to switch and try out acting? I know you had a passion for acting growing up, but at the age of like, I think around 32 to 35 look, it was always a place I knew I'd end up some at one stage. I knew I would get there. A voice told you that like, I don't know if it's a voice, but I think even when you're a child, you kind of, you feel you belong there. I don't know how to say it. No, no, I get it. When I started watching movies as a child, as a very little child, I felt I knew how to make movies. Got it. And you could do it better. Like maybe I just knew, I knew this is, Oh, this is all I've seen it before. Maybe in a past life or maybe I saw it from my mother's womb. I don't know. But I, I, I was so familiar with the movies. I was so familiar with the stage, even as a little kid, I was a nervous child who knows to speak too much. But when I went on stage as a 11 year old to perform professionally, it came to you naturally. Yeah. Okay. So like I belong over there. Yeah. So you, I think it's very important for youngsters to know that you belong somewhere and that calling will pull you there and you need to listen to it when it's calling you up. You need to listen to it. So what was that moment for you where you were like, wait, hold on, stop break. Let's change parts. You know, it's so strange. Maybe when I turned to photography, it was the first stepping stone to the visual medium. Okay. So maybe that's part of my training. Got it. I don't know why I chose photography. Yeah. It just came to you naturally again at that stage, I'm guessing. Yeah. I chose photography because I just had a, had an attraction for it and that I, I saw still pictures morphing into moving pictures in my head for some reason. It's the other way around. You see moving stuff and you, you, you, you condense it into one still photograph. I, I, I still look at it differently that one fine day these, these frames will come handy to me. I don't know if it makes any sense to you. So let me tell you the perspective from this side of the court. As a nine year old, 10 year old, when I went into Monabhai MBBS after the movie, definitely everyone loves Sanjay Dutt, but you also the guy who stuck in like everyone's heads, like with the whole laughing therapy and just your performance on screen. When you were doing that movie, did you realize how much your life is going to change after that? No. Okay. And it changed after that. I think another piece of advice, if I'm allowed to say, use the word advice is don't look at the morning headlines when you're about to kick that goal. If you have an open goal, you first shoot the goal, then finish the game, then party with your friends and then think of the morning headlines.
Another Career advice from Boman Irani (12:15)
A lot of commentators always, Oh, we miss an open goal. He was thinking of the morning headlines. You know, that's a big, big red flag because you're looking at the celebration. So no, when Monabhai came out, we didn't even know it would be such a big hit. Forget about changing, changing our lives.
Talking about Munnabhai, M.B.B.S. (12:45)
Everyone was affected by that film. Yeah. I think that's very important. When, on my second or third day of shooting, a unit came to do interviews and they said, I don't know how to talk. I have to, I'm in no position. What am I going to talk about that I've been shooting for the last three days? There's nothing to talk about. I didn't do the interview because you've got to be eligible for an interview. Do you consider yourself eligible today? Yeah, I think so. Eligible to do interviews for sure. You know, from Monabhai to Made in China, man, like I've grown up watching you do all these crazy roles. Keep saying I've grown up watching you. I know, I know. I understand. No, no, it's not that. I still feel like you're my elder Parsi. I'm going to hit you if you say the word elder. Just because you've got beer biceps, you don't think, you know. No, but for real, again, if someone studies your journey, it's inspiring at every stage. And I'm not just saying that. And I know it's one of those Parsi things to kind of play it cool. Yeah, it's fine. It's very awkward. Just now someone came and said, no, no, no. He's being, no, I don't know how to listen. I find it awkward to listen to praise. Not that people don't like praise. Yeah, but it's a very strange paradox. You don't know how to react. I don't know how to react. Yeah. Okay. So for this interview, every time I praise you because that's going to happen a lot. What do I do? I'll look at Sehraj. You can just be like, thanks bro. Okay. To you. Yeah. Coming back to like Made in China. It's a movie primarily about entrepreneurship, I feel.
Acting & Entrepreneurship (14:30)
Right. So actually Rajkumar said this thing in one of his recent interviews. He said that acting is a lot like entrepreneurship. I have the same question to you. Do you somewhere look at yourself as a businessman who's selling his product, which is the ability to act? Well, I'm so glad he said what he said, because I like a fresh perspective on things. Yeah. I always looked at acting very differently. I never looked at it as entrepreneurship and I'm very interested in knowing what he said. Could you in a nutshell tell me? That, you know, in entrepreneurship, either you're selling a product or a service and technically as an actor, you're taking out something from inside you, putting it out on screen. So in a way it's a product that you're putting out for the real world and the movie viewers are your consumers technically. So have you ever looked at yourself? No, never, no, never looked at it like this. And I'm very impressed that he, this, this take I've never heard of before, but what would you say about the movie made in China? For me, it becomes a little intimate. No, the process of acting I'll tell you about. Well, for me it becomes a little more intimate in the sense that I take it as a great privilege to be an actor, not because you're on screen, not because people are going to watch and you know, people, people say nice things at the end of the day, save a critic here and a critic there and we'd forgive them for it. But, but so especially people do tend to forget the rotten tomatoes, but, and they always remember the ones that touch them. And whenever I meet people, they say, okay, so Munna, why BBS for you? Someone said a jolly LLB for me, or someone said virus for me. And they, they talk about it. And that's, that's, that's good. But for me, I look at myself with a greater responsibility, not, not directly to the film, indirectly to the film, to the director, to the makers, to the producer, but directly to the character that I'm going to breathe life into God, because I am giving birth to a soul, to a heart, to a mind. I become a mother stroke father of the character, like an artistic amoeba. I am. Yeah. You're making a baby. You're going to see it grow. You're going to see him face the world. You're going to see him laugh. You're going to, you're going to see it cry. You're going to see it be being exultant. And for you, that's your child. You have created it and only you have created it. You've not created it with man and woman. You've created it by yourself. And for that breath that you put inside another, another character, you are responsible for it. And in turn, that character is responsible to the, to service the story and to service the director's vision. So when, when Astana or whoever, whichever the characters or the character made in China reacts to something, the character is reacting to a situation not I. So put, put it in the character's DNA that if somebody needles you, you control your anger or you explode, explode. I, as a parent of that character have, have programmed him such. Got it. So, you know, when I listened to you talking about this, it seems like you put a lot of fire into your work. There's a lot of like motive. You're really serious and passionate. It's a privilege sir. Yeah, for sure. And the other aspect of this is fame puts you up on a pedestal for the country. Like people are observing you. Now as a YouTube, I feel like my purpose is to put out positivity or to teach people something about knowledge. What would you say is the purpose of your career? I'm not saying like, you know, the intention, but what's the purpose, what's the larger thing.
Giving back to the society (18:11)
What are you doing for society through your films? On a very basic level, I've never looked at myself as an actor to make me feel great as a creative person. You do feel, you know, creatively, if you've done well, there is some fun in that, but I think as my mother always says, that you've been given a talent, not to feed your ego. Oh, I did this in this particular way and this method or that, but nobody gives a damn. What your job is to entertain people, to bring a smile. That's exactly what Miraj may have said. But I look at it, the talent is given to you, not for you to feel good about yourself. Of course you should. But the greater thing is people get a sense of joy and a sense of escapism. Bad word. Yeah. Better word. I mean bad word. Yeah. Yeah. But the meaning is the same. I just don't like the word a hundred percent because if there's escapism you've done, I think sometimes it should stay with you. And then that is why even you as a 10 year old who saw a movie, it sticks with you. Yes. Yes. So there has to be something, there has to be something to be said for contemporary consciousness. Why did, why did virus affect us? Yeah. Why? Because everyone could relate to it somewhere. Exactly. And they relate to it. They go back to their childhood. They try and understand what the viruses in their life did to them, made them better or made them worse. And that's your job to make people feel, you know what? I overcame that man. I know of a very, very well known person who didn't call me for three years after three idiots was released. And he called me three years later. I said, you know, I want to tell you about virus. I said, wow, three years. You just saw it. You say, no, I saw it on day one. But I, and I had a virus in my life and that man used to haunt me in my dreams and I've overcome that. He terrorized me. Yeah. He terrorized me. I said, but you're telling me now, see, because I've overcome it. Thank you for helping me to overcome it because I can talk to you. I feel I'm talking to virus. I'm feeling much better now. So if it, I'm not saying you change lives, but it's important that if it has got no relevance to your life, then that character will have no relevance on screen. Yeah. A hundred percent. You got to bring that in. A hundred percent. And that's a part of the purpose. That's part of the purpose. Um, my next question to you is not related to films in general, specifically what made in China, right? What made you sign this when you're playing a sexologist? Um, I think there's a lovely social message that, that goes out there.
Role in Made In China (21:01)
And I, I use this line to say that, you know, uh, if one has a heart problem, you go to a cardiologist. Yeah. One has a, uh, diabetes issue, you go to a diabetesologist or whatever the word is for that on ophthalmic surgeon for your eye. If you have a, uh, a dysfunction, the physical dysfunction in your private life, I think it's important to go to the doctor. And I think that there are two things. Uh, one is, one is for treatment and the other is for awareness. There's such a lack of awareness because it is made into a tablet subject. No, no, it's got to do with your own body. There's so much confusion and there's so many, uh, misconceptions about it. I think this opens it up a little bit, you know, and I think there's a nice, uh, nice way of looking at it. Got it. It's a good message. It's wrapped up in a nice social message. It's a nice social message. Coming back to your real life, the real Burma and how did money change your life?
How Bomans life changed after acting? (22:16)
I mean the film kind of money, the film, Bollywood money. How did that change your life? Firstly, I was very happy to be associated with cinema, but that's got no money. Sorry. That's not the question. Uh, I think there were two things that, uh, that I could do and they're both, um, once I made some money, um, one is the first time I went to, to, uh, to, to London, I had no money on me. I went because I had to go with a unit. I had no money and I went to HMB and I, and I wanted to pick out a DVD of my favorite films and I could, I picked up two, but I could only buy one. And I said, you know what? I wish I could buy though by 10, 20 because that's something I really love as a kid to see all the films when I watched as a kid, if I could buy them and watch all those films and relive my, my childhood all over again. So I think that's a very simple one for money. And two is I love traveling and, and the first time that I traveled, I, I traveled only on the expense of someone else because somebody says, you're going for this shooter, you're going for that shooter, you're going for this event. And always the producer buys the buys, the buys the ticket. And I just said, I would love to travel abroad right in the early days when I didn't have too much money. I can go on my own steam. That's an option that should be with me. I, the day I can say that I'm going, I'm going off for a, for a trip like that overnight. And, and by then I had so many responsibilities. I didn't have too much spare cash even during that time. And was being shown at the United Nations at the UN. And Raju calls and says, I am New York. You should have told me saying, I would have come, it's Bandra, Todi, Todi, yeah. So he's saying, nahi nahi mein hai toh. Day after tomorrow. Hello. I just bought myself a ticket and went. That gave me a great, a sense of freedom and to choose and go where you wish to choose, especially to travel. I could go and represent myself. So of course the producer did call Vinod Chopra did call and say, Hey, you're going, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. Let, let, let us buy the ticket. I said, no, I want to buy the ticket and money does that to you. Just makes you feel a little worthy. That's all. In your own words, I think you scored a goal and you celebrated just for a bit and then you came back and started playing again. That's what I feel. When right now, no, when these moments like these happen, it's like you celebrating a goal in those moments and then eventually you come back to the shooting space. You come back to the shooting space. It's so beautiful. And then, and I love holidays because it brings families together. We spend time together and it may be because of that disastrous holiday that I try. I'm still trying to cover up for that one. I hope this interview is like a turning point in terms of that. I enjoyed myself very much. I have a few questions left. Please go home. My next question to you is fame. What has fame taught you? Because you got fame kind of later in life.
Fame And The Film Industry
Learnings from fame (25:40)
And usually when fame comes early, it messes things up for some people. But I think you re you got it at the point where you were pretty stable in the head. I don't know, but fame is a big messer. Yeah. So I think I was lucky to I was lucky that the opium of fame didn't give me such a big kick. The opium of fame actually humbled me. I said, you know, either I go and become a nuisance to nuisance and someone who can't be, you know, when your own mother, friends or wife can't sit you down and tell you that, what are you doing? You're gone beyond. You've gone into that orbit where you're unapproachable because you got the time of fame around you. You've gone. There's nothing left. You see that happening to people in the film industry. What do you, where do you see people going wrong? Like what, what happens wrong? It's opium. Famous toxic in a way.
Peoples reaction to Fame (26:40)
It's opium. It's intoxicating on a level where you have no control. So, so you will be hit by the opium, but it's, it depends on whether you just want to close your eyes and say, you know, take it easy. Let me wake up in the morning and figure this out. Does it also depend on the people around you? I think so. And you've seen like the people who are surrounded by the wrong people get, I think so affected by the film. You just need somebody to whisper on your wrong shoulder. And is there anything you really dislike about your own industry? Like it doesn't have to be a person. Like I know you're grateful for it. I'm very grateful for it. Yeah. But something you change. Honestly, you know, there's far, there's too much, there's a lot of good in the industry actually.
One thing that can be changed about the Bollywood Industry (27:20)
Yeah. Whenever there's a disaster and you know, you see the film industry, the first to jump together and kind of, you know, rally for it's also, it's, it's an extremely secular industry. Got it. Yeah. I'm not good at saying negative things. I can't think of too much. Let me ask you another question.
What have you learnt from the Bollywood Industry (27:50)
What have you learned from the film industry that will stay with you for life? I think that careers can be ephemeral. They can vanish, they can vanish and they can vanish for your own fault. Most of the time, sometimes not, not because it's your fault. So it can just vanish, enjoy it while it's, while it's good. Learn a lot and learn something new because fame softens the sofa. Yeah. You sink a little more inside the sofa. If you have learned something new, then you may not require the fame. Yeah. Got it. You could just go on and still have a career. Maybe do something else within, within that, within, within the confines of the industry. So knowledge is what will protect you? Something new in, yeah, I think learning something new and being humbled enough to learn something new. Yeah. That's the protection. Yeah. That knowledge is the protection. Yeah. Because you're on a high and then suddenly, man, what happened? Yeah. Knowledge and humility, I would say. I think so. Um, okay. I want to ask you about your childhood again. You grew up with ADHD and dyslexia dyslexia for in this calculate the for sure because I'm just getting worse by the day.
Childhood Diseases (29:06)
It's getting worse by the dyslexia. Great improvement. This calculate numbers disaster, but they say that people who have these kinds of conditions also geniuses and you kind of radiate the bit of that genius. Yeah. Yo bro. Thank you bro. Thank you bro. No, I don't know. No, it's just that one side of your brain is very strong. Got it. Freakishly strong. I don't know that genius, if that's the definition of genius, but there's a, there's certain things that I remember freakishly. Got it. Freakishly. It scares people. Understood. So you can tap into like old memories or something. That's probably that comes to use in your acting as well. I think only wow. All the time, like a secret superpower you've used to it is, it is like a power superpower. I don't know, but power for sure. What's your advice to that person in their thirties who's considering a career switch, but it's too afraid for a career switch. I always say this, who made the rules? Bring that guy and make make him stand in front of me.
Changing careers at and after the 30s (30:00)
Whoever made the rules was not, was not a creative person at all. He decided, I don't know if it's one person or if it is society at large, that decided that certain age, if you don't get married, then you'll never get married. Stupid rule. Are you supposed to have kids at this age? Fair enough. You should whatever, but your career should be kind of decided by the time you're 23 and by the time you're 30, you should be an expert at it. That's a rule. When will you stop and listen to that calling that I mentioned some time ago? There is a calling in your, and your mind will step out of your mind and go into your ear and will call you and tell you, it will not tell you from here, it'll tell you from here. And there'll be a little voice that will tell you from inside. This is where you belong. And if you thought of it as a child, don't let it go because you will only live with the regret that you did not do it. But in those moments, you know, people know about these voices, but they're afraid to kind of take that leap. No, see now fear is something that, fear is something that, you know, stunts careers. Well, on the other hand, not that I'm saying no to anyone, but if some, if the whole world knows that you sing off-key and you're dying to be a singer, maybe you should give it a second thought. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, and you say, I'm not going to leave everything. So if you're really off-key singer, don't dump everything and say, I'm going out there to become a singer. Yeah. The calling, your calling was wrong. The reason to become a singer was probably wrong. But I have no arguments with that also. Yeah. Maybe tomorrow people might like to listen to an off-key singer. I don't know. There may be a trend tomorrow. I hope not. But, but, but having said that, listen to that voice, listen to that voice. And that calling will say that this is what I always wanted to do. At least start it as a hobby. How risky is that? Check and see whether you're flying or floating. You got to feel the float. If you don't feel the float, then maybe it's not for you. And if somebody says, you know, just put today, you want to paint, you don't have to give up the world to be a painter, get somebody teach, practice, practice an hour every day. And you can put it up on, on social media and test the waters before you take that big drastic decision of dumping your, your million dollar job as you know what I'm saying? Yeah. 100%. So what stops you from trying? I don't understand. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to be a director next year. Wow. I'm I'm I've been learning how to be a screenplay writer for seven years now. Crazy. This was in the middle of your acting career. Now, now, now. Wow. Seven years. I just came back from New York after doing a workshop. That's a part of your process of getting knowledge. Yeah. Beautiful. Learning writing. I don't know whether I'll be good or bad. Yeah. That's not important. Do you perceive this as you challenging yourself or is it something that just comes naturally to you? Something's telling you to become a. Yeah. Wow. Crazy. My question to you, why would this challenge yourself for the sake of you to enjoy it? Why will I suffer the challenge? I have to enjoy the challenge. I think that's something younger people need to pick up from slightly elder brothers. Like again, like hell is this guy man. Five minutes. He says elder, elder, elder. So like you, I think younger guys always perceive everything like with that body or mentality of, oh, come on, I'm going to challenge myself. I'm going to do it. And contrary to you, and you're just saying that, you know, listen, you're calling, this is something I enjoy and why not kind of create. I'll tell you another problem. Maybe, maybe again, little advice again is that you look around you and you see a lot of fame floating around and you say that.
Life Lessons And Advice
Rd Career Advice (34:34)
So you want to get there faster. And the first thing that I said, there are no magic bullets and there are no shortcuts. And if you really want to excel in it, you don't start from ground zero level. You start from underground level because you've got to build the foundation to make a building. You've got to dig inside, down, not up. So, so don't look around and say this guy, man, he's making so much money doing this. And he's just, you know, he's, everybody can't do what you're doing. Yeah. You know, you know, you're, you're doing a pretty in-depth conversation. You're not, you don't have followers because well, he's good looking too, I suppose. You know what I mean? But you know what I'm trying to say? Don't look at other people's fame that's loading around and say, I want to be famous because the last thing in the world is you want to be famous at the, at the risk of getting it right. Get it right. Then enjoy the fame. Get it right. Yes. So after seeing all of life, what's the most, again, he's suggesting I'm an old man. It comes out of a place of respect. No, no, no, no. But what's, what's the most beautiful thing about life according to you?
The MOST beautiful thing about life (36:04)
That you can shock yourself with what you're capable of. Surprising yourself. Yeah. Surprising yourself. This is great fun to do, man. This is a great fun. You see, you see, you see a gymnast. But you see, what are they doing? They're defying gravity. They're defying elasticity. They're defying bones. They're defying chakkar. I don't know how they're doing what they're doing. They have defied the human body to do such beautiful things with it. You can do the same thing with your mind if you don't have a great body. Yeah. That's kind of what I'm trying to do. Yeah. You can have a great thing with your mind is capable of imagining whatever you want to imagine. If you're to pass on only one human teaching to your kids, what would it be?
One human advice teaching to your kids (36:50)
Okay, I'll have to say one with six things inside, you know, but one would be you will never learn anything if you're not humble and you've not learned anything if you've not applied what you learned. You can't say I learned it and then show off. I have great knowledge on this. Who cares? Practical. What did you apply it on? Like the practical experience matters. Yeah. So just just learn something. Enjoy it. Don't be pedantic about it. And ethically done will be the best and humbly done will be the best and you know, a lot of actors have come to me and I'm sounding like an old man now really something of what do you think? Give me some tips as I can't teach you in five minutes, you know.
Life Tip (37:54)
But if you remain humble, you take care of your learning and you take care of the opium of fame. God simple. What should people stay away from in life? According to you?
What should you stay away from in life (38:08)
What should people stay away from life? You can stay close to anything you want, man. Yeah, it's balance. Just balance it. Do what the hell you have to. But but I genuinely feel bootlickers. Bootlickers maybe. Maybe they have an ulterior motive there. I think the bad kind of people can absolutely ruin even the best. Yeah. It's a good piece. But you said bootlickers. And my final question to you is that why should a young person go and watch this film made in China?
Why should people watch Made In China (38:49)
Why should a young person go and watch? I think again, he's looking at a young person. So my audience is primarily college kids. So you're talking your see again, he's shoving it down. My audience also college kids. You know, when I saw three idiots, I got this intuition. A voice told me that don't do engineering and I still did engineering. So yeah, that's my story. What three? That's good. Yeah. But I don't regret it. No, no, no, no. You've learned something. Yeah. A hundred percent. But I think this movie eventually, I like a story with which has a story layered underneath it. Got a message. You could call it a message. I don't know if that, but it's an entertaining story which has a layer below it that, you know, to me, it's the story of a man who wants to get some self worth. They're treating me badly in the family. They're treating me like I'm saying a jacket. My wife doesn't think. And I'm talking about the lead character, Rajkumar Raskar, wonderful actor, wonderful actor. Another reason why I wanted to do the film was to work with Rajkumar. It's so nice, you know, it's so nice to work with it with a wonderful actor like he. So it's an entrepreneur's journey who wants eventually I have come to the conclusion all life and all that we do in our lives is about self worth. You know, feel worthy. You want people to say. Kustukhiya life. Kustukhiya. I think that's what the story says. And then we have my character, Dr. Vardhi, who is a sexologist who is just bringing a little awareness and he needs me for authenticity for his product. So that that forges the friendship. But I think somebody did an interview that and say, is it you think it's a taboo subject? I said the moment you call it taboo, it becomes taboo. It's not. It's about you, your own body that you've got to take care of relationships because they can suffer frustrations and then mental problems that can go spiraling out of control. So I think there are a lot of themes in this film. Takeaways. Yeah, there are a lot of takeaways. It's very entertaining. It's great fun. And then everybody wants to see an underdog story. So your young people will enjoy. One, one more question I have for you. He's asked me twenty one last questions, but I like that. You know, go ahead. Yeah, this isn't just a podcast for me. It's like a nice lesson. So and you're talking to India's future Elon Musk. So I'm right about this particular conversation. But you seem like someone who's always learning. So on a daily basis, what do you do to keep your brain stimulated?
Brain Simulation Process
How does Boman simulate the brain (41:51)
Ah, lovely. I keep my brain sharp by there's there's one misconception about memory. I read through what you know, what how memory works. Memory doesn't work. But I remembered something that happened when I was an 11 year old. I don't think so. It works because you recall what happened. What to you as a 11 year old, when you were a 15 year old, when you were 18 year old, when you were 25. So the last memory is what you're recalling, not the 11 year old memory. So you've got to keep your memory always fresh. So whenever somebody says, who was that actor in that that movie? Hey, don't tell me. I close my eyes and and and I try to think that my brain is like a computer chip and I go and I will never check it up on the IMDb. I will always fish it out of my head. That helps me to stay sharp. So memory memory is a thing that I value a lot to keep the mind agile. Learn something new. Learn something new and stop. You made me speak like an old man by saying advice and stop behaving and talking like an old man. You know, you got to if you're talking to to what's your average age, like 22, speak to speak to 22 year olds. No, not like a 60 year old. So the moment you say I'm a 60 year old talking, you're gone. Why should you talk like a 60 year old? I am 60 years old, but why should I talk like as I'm communicating with 22 year olds? Yeah, I feel like I'm talking to like a 25 year old. Finally. What's the word? Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. Finally. But seriously, thank you. Thank you, bro. This is so beautiful. My personal favorite podcast till date actually. Till date? Yes. Thank you, bro. Blake, what about you? You are a little bit old. So if you could just look at the camera and say everybody subscribe to Beer Biceps and watch the Ranveer show. Everybody subscribe to Beer Biceps and watch the Ranveer show. OK, thank you guys. We'll see you guys later. Thank you. Thank you so much.