How To Unleash Your CREATIVITY Into The World & Raise Your SELF-ESTEEM | Jhené Aiko & Jay Shetty | Transcription

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Intro (00:00)

I remember when she passed, our whole family would have to get together and practice the ceremony for the offering of the incense and everything. And one day we were all doing that and I remember I went outside and I saw like butterflies flying around and I was like talking to the sky. Like I literally remember being this little baby and like talking to God and saying, you know, you can bring my grandmother back. It's okay, I won't be scared like if she falls from the sky blah blah blah blah. And then I saw two butterflies go by and I was kind of like something about that moment kind of made me feel like, oh okay, she's here. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now I'm really, really looking forward to this next conversation because it's with someone who's been pouring their heart into making music about meditation, making it an opportunity for revelation in our own lives and making it about healing. Today I'm talking with Janay Aiko about the sound healing and creative intention she pours into her music. Janay is a six time Grammy nominated R&B performer and in addition to her music career, she's a Barnes and Noble best selling author and mother. Her new album, Cholombo, is absolutely phenomenal. It's a work of art and it's truly been the album of the year of helping people this year get through their struggle, their pain and their challenges. And I'm so glad to have this conversation and share this space with her right now.

Jhene'S Personal And Spiritual Journey

The picture Jhene posted (01:48)

I want to start with asking you probably something totally random, but I saw the other day you posted something on Instagram, which is where we connected and you posted adventure in your caption and then you were like, what looked like next to an unearthed tree or it was like this crazy, can you tell us about what that place was? Yeah, so I was in Point Lobos, which is in Carmel. I think they call it the central coast, it's like up the California coast. It was like a hiking trail and literally while I was walking, I was looking at the roots and I've been like obsessed with roots lately, like actual roots of trees and my own personal roots as well. And I saw them coming out while we were walking on the trail and they were so smooth and shiny and strong and I was just like, wow, and then we just came upon this, like you said, it looked like a, almost like a tree hat gotten like ripped from the ground and all the roots were exposed and they were like, it was like a wall of roots. And I was just like, wow, this is cool. And I first, I took a picture just of it and then my boyfriend was like, do you want to be in the picture? I actually didn't. I just wanted a picture of that, but then I was like, okay, cool. And so yeah, that's what it was. And I just thought it looked really cool. Yeah. It did. It looked amazing.

Studying ancestry (03:20)

I caught my eye straight away and I couldn't wait to ask you about it because it looked like an incredible experience and I'm more fascinated now because of what you just said of your fascination with roots. Tell us about both your fascination with the roots of trees, but then tell us about your own roots as well and what formed you into who you are. The past maybe three, four years, I have been studying my family history and I feel like most of us sort of just, we only know what our parents and grandparents have told us. And you know, some families, they do have more information about, you know, the family and the roots and like where everyone comes from. But my family is from all over and I just remember hearing so many different things. You know, like I said, maybe four or five years ago, I was like, I really want to figure out for myself, you know, and really study my family history. And so I did the DNA thing on and the results were like, what? Like these are, you know, like it was things I didn't know that I had that the results, basically, I didn't know a lot of that information. So within that site, they take you to different records of the people in your family and then it just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. And so those roots, I of course got super intrigued by and I just felt more of myself, you know, learning about and seeing pictures of, you know, these relatives that I knew nothing about, you know, and even more so, they pull up people that share your DNA and so they'll pull, you know, first cousin, second cousin, third cousin, fourth cousin, fifth, sixth. And you see these people and you get to message each other and they all look different, you know, and they all, but then it just, I don't know, it's just such a fulfilling feeling to connect with people that are your family that you didn't know about, you know, and just learn about family. And I think part of me feeling more grounded today is discovering that my roots are so deep and so widespread. And so now when I look at trees and I see the roots, I'm just like, oh, this is like, I'm a tree. And my family, you know, those are my roots. So yeah. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. It's such a grounding feeling. Yeah. It's such a centering feeling of realizing that your roots are ancient and old and you've survived and your family is like, yeah, for this long and the amount it's got through. I remember doing the test to the the test and I remember finding out I was 77% South Asian, which is what I expected. But then I saw that I was 1% Native American. And that for me was just, I didn't realize that there was any part of me that was from anywhere else. And I agree with you when I started tracing it too. It's phenomenal to see how interconnected we all are. I don't know if you've heard about my one of my teachers, one of my monk teachers always talks about the redwood forest and the redwood trees. And I don't know if you've heard about their roots. No. So, so their roots do something really interesting. You've just sparked this. They don't grow down and far. They actually grow across and wide. And they intertwine with other trees. And so the other redwood trees that are like baby redwood trees, they tie up with the big redwood trees. And then all the trees share their nutrients through their roots across the whole network, which I think's.

The redwood forest (07:23)

That's amazing. Yeah, it's unbelievable. So, yeah, your fascination with roots is very, it's very justified. There's there's there's a lot to learn there. But I was speaking to you earlier when we were just chatting briefly before about how you've really been bringing this spiritual energy into your music.

Jhene's spiritual journey (07:39)

And I've really genuinely admired and had so many amazing meditative experiences listening to your work. Oh, good. And I want to start with where did your spiritual journey begin? Where did that journey for you kind of ignite before you even thought about bringing it to your music? My spiritual journey was ignited when I was, I think I was like four or five. Miyoko D, remember when grandma passed away? Right? I was maybe like four or five, I think. I was I was really young. And I had it felt like I had just met her. Maybe you know, your baby mind is the time is a little different. So in my though my memory is that I just got to know her, you know, maybe like it was probably I knew her for like a year, at least in my memory of being, you know, such a young baby person. Didn't get to spend that much time with her. I fell in love with her immediately. This little Japanese lady, she still let me play with her wrinkles. She didn't speak a lot, very quiet, very just like cute to me. She was like a kitten and she passed away. And I was just like, hmm. And I remember asking my dad, my dad who is a pediatrician, he would always explain things to us in a scientific way. So I'm like, well, where did she go? He's like, well, she went to sleep and she didn't wake back up. And I'm like, okay. So and then what about like her body? And he was like, they burned her body. And so in my in my mind, I'm like, they burned her body. Huh? You know, so I'm thinking of all of these things. And at the same time, we were preparing for her funeral, which was a Buddhist funeral. And I guess that was my first, that was my first funeral for sure, but my first sort of spiritual encounter. And at the same time, my grandmother would take us to Sunday school, to a Christian church. And so I would hear about, you know, how I would hear about praying and praying to Jesus and God. And so I was like, you know, I knew the story of Jesus and now I'm learning about Buddha. And I'm five. And my grandmother has passed away and they said that she's burned, you know, they burned her body and, but I'm like, but I don't think that she just went, you know, she's not gone. So just from that moment, I was like almost even fascinated with death, you know, and like, okay, not even necessarily trying to figure it out, but just kind of like, yeah, fascinated is the word and loss as well. Just, you know, always trying to figure out what different feelings mean. And I remember when she passed, I think one day after, because we, our whole family would have to get together and practice like the ceremony with for the offering of the incense and everything. And one day we were all doing that. And I remember I went outside and I saw like butterflies flying around and I was like talking to the sky. And I literally remember being this little baby and like out loud saying like, you know, talking to God and saying, you know, you can bring my grandmother back. Like it's okay. I won't be scared. Like if she falls from the sky, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I saw two butterflies go by and I was kind of like, when they flew by, I looked up in the window and my cousin, my older cousin was looking at me talking to myself. And so I was like, okay, but then I saw the butterflies and something about that moment kind of made me feel like, okay, she's here, you know, she didn't have to like drop out of the sky type of thing. And just from that moment on, I don't know, I've always been contemplative, you know, I've always, when I was little, even I'm the youngest of five or I grew up in a household of five older, I mean, four older siblings. So it was really loud and most of that time I would just be like observing and just, you know, trying to figure things out or just staring at things and just like, I feel like really I was like meditating on them now that I think about it. But yeah, so it really started at that moment. That was a wonderful story and a wonderful sharing of that experience. Thank you. It's amazing to see how much you remember from when you were that young. Yeah, that's one of my most vivid memories. And I've written it down a few times throughout my life to see like, if it ever, you know, if it changed, but it doesn't, it's, I think it's, I think that was a real one. That's wonderful. And I guess when was it where you started to realize this connection between your spiritual interests and music? Was that always there from the beginning of when you started your music journey or was that more when you felt a certain level of personal growth and personal confidence in what you were finding?

Putting her Personal Growth and Story into Music (13:18)

When I first started my musical journey, I was 12 going on 13 and it was just fun. It was, you know, I was traveling and meeting new people and it was just more so fun for me. I started to incorporate my own personal story into my music until I was started going through my first little heartbreaks, you know, and then when I had my daughter, by that time, I had been through a few things and I was really focused on putting my real story and my personal story into the music and, you know, as you get older, you know, the more things that you go through. So obviously having my daughter was a spiritual experience. So I started, you know, making songs about that and just my love for her and then when my brother passed in 2012, that was like a, that was probably like the most pivotal moment in my life, but also in my, you know, music because I had so much to express and it was such a, it was so changing, you know what I mean? It was something that really reworked my whole being and my whole perception of life and, you know, family and love and all of these things. And so as I started trying to figure out my emotions and how I felt about losing the closest person to me, I started, you know, like self-medicating and trying to escape and like trying to forget about it and then obviously I'm like really small and I'm also just really sensitive. And so that took a toll on me for sure, like mentally, physically, spiritually and having a daughter and watching as she got older, it was, you know, I recognized the responsibility of having, you know, a whole human being that I was really solely responsible for, you know, feeling physically and mentally not all there because of what I had been trying to heal myself with these substances, I realized, okay, that's probably not the best way to get through this. And so, you know, throughout my life, I've read books about meditation and I have, you know, tried it and all these things. But once I got to that point where I really was like, okay, this is like a life or death situation, then I really, really got into it. And, you know, my music is just a reflection of me and what I'm going through at that time. And so, you know, for the past several years, that's what I've been going through, you know, trying to heal and just evolve and ascend and, you know, be my highest form of myself. And so, yeah, I don't know if that answers that I, did I stray from the question? No, you answered it. You are. I want to be honest with you that sitting here listening to you, it's transforming internally for me. Like, it's wonderful to hear you think through and hear about reflecting on pivotal moments in your life because none of them sound easy and you're going through them so young. And so to hear you actually share them in this way, I'm hoping that everyone is listening and watching right now is feeling the same way, that they're feeling like they can reflect on their own life and find how these moments have made them stronger or made them more reflective or more meditative or more introspective because, as you said, all of these things that are happening, are just trying to help us learn something and help us find something more about ourselves. Right.

Tapping into Simple Ways of Meditation (17:43)

When I hear you say that it was that moment when meditation became more real for you, what else do you think happened at that moment that you feel like at such a young age, you've been able to develop that curiosity but also resilience and that strength of who you are? I think a very pivotal moment in my life was, and I don't even remember, I think I was just in a bookstore and I liked, I was probably in the astrology section and right across from it was the eastern religion and I saw a Tik-Nahan book, "Paces Every Step." And at that point, I was probably like 17 or 18 and I think I just liked, I just liked that title and I read it probably in two or three days. And when I was younger, I used to read books like that but at that age, 17, I wasn't reading books, especially in two or three days. And it was so simple, so poetic and I applied it immediately and I just felt good. I felt good, I felt happy and from there on, I would always get his new books and give them to people and I think with meditation, it was the same thing when I felt how it made me feel, then I was like, okay, this is something that I want to exercise, I want to practice this because I can feel physically, mentally, spiritually, everything, I just feel better. The reason why I love Tik-Nahan, he states things so simply that anyone can understand and the beautiful stories he tells to arrive to the lesson that he's teaching, it just makes it so much more impactful for me and I love his meditations as well. He's so simple, the red light, meditation, take that moment to breathe into your belly, things like that that have helped me practice more of a meditation as more of a way of living and not just meditate every day for this amount of time. It's more like breathing through every moment, difficult or not. And it's something that I'm not perfect at or the best at or even in the top percentage of people that are great at it. But it's something that, like I said, as I get older and things get even more real, it comes in handy for sure. Can you share with our listeners the red light meditation so that they understand it more and then they can apply to? Okay, so Tik-Nahan says, "Instead of viewing it like you're in traffic, you have to understand that you are the traffic." When I read that, I was like, "Oh, man." And I personally love to drive. Me too. I view it as a sort of a meditation because I'm just in that moment driving. I'm not thinking of anything because I'm a safe, a really safe driver and probably a slow driver too. So the red light meditation is every time you arrive at a red light, you come home to yourself. You take that red light as a bell of mindfulness to send to yourself instead of viewing it as, "Oh, this red light is making me late and letting it frustrate you." It's a moment to take for yourself and just breathe. Yeah. Or that's how I take it. Yeah, that's wonderful. We definitely share a love for Tik-Nahan in a special way. I think he's absolutely phenomenal in the books that he's written, the work that he's done. And that example is a perfect synopsis of why he's so powerful because it takes a very simple concept and something that we all deal with on a daily basis and turns it from how we usually view it to something that's so much more profound and meaningful for each and every one of us. And I think that's almost like what all of us need to become is every day we need to be able to take these very ordinary daily things and turn them into these extraordinary experiences rather than the other way around. And so, yeah, thank you for sharing that. I love that. I hope everyone's going to try that. Especially in LA traffic. Yeah. I love driving too. So I feel, you know, when you said that, I was like, I feel the same way. I can go on a long drive for hours and just feel completely, you know, satisfied and fulfilled and hit as many red lights as I have to. Yes, exactly. And I loved what you said then. By the way, there's no one who's the perfect meditator or, you know, we're all learning and working and figuring it out. And what I love about meditation is that when you feel you've reached a level, there's just another level. Yeah. And there's just always this continuous awakening. And I want to talk about how you've put so much intention into your creative expression because you're not just making music. You're actually creating art to help people heal. I was watching this video on YouTube and anyone who's listening or watching right now, you can go and check it out. It was your experience. You designed an immersive experience with Doh M'Elle.

Crystal and sound bowls. (23:43)

Yes. And I loved it because you had everyone like lying down and looking up and these absolutely phenomenal designs that look like the inside of someone's mind. And then you were playing the soundball and the hop and chanting and singing. And I was just like, wow, like this is a healing experience. Tell us about how you came to create that and feel that that was how you wanted to share it. That was a dream come true that hopefully I can take on tour sooner than later. So when I was probably around the same time I would start reading Tiknadha. There's a store that my father loves. That's, it's not there anymore, huh? I'm not saying Santa Monica, but they have lots of sound bowls and it's like a spiritual new age store. And there was a Tibetan singing bowl. I picked it up, started playing it, not to its full sound, I guess, because the owner came up to me like, let me show you how to do it. I'm like, wow. And then I immediately understood what he was saying. And I was just like, oh my God, this is the best feeling ever. Literally, like I loved the feeling of my wrists going in a circle and obviously loved the sound and how it was making me feel. So I bought one and then I kept buying them and I would just, you know, play them when I was feeling away or just when I was bored even just because I loved how they sound and how they make me feel and fast forward to maybe five years ago, my friend Chrissy sent me a picture of this woman with all of these really pretty crystal bowls. And I was like, what, like, what are these? Because I've seen the big white crystal bowls, but I had never seen them like so iridescent and just like in all these colors and sizes. And so I looked it up and I found the company and at the same time, you know, have been working on music and I guess even my album before Cholombo, I wanted to incorporate more acoustic instruments, you know, live drums, live flute, live, and I would collect these instruments from like different festivals and different places that I would travel because I just felt like you could feel them more than the, you know, computer sounds. And so I'm already incorporating those into the music and then now I find these bowls and I'm just like, duh, like this is, this is what I have to, they're so easy for me to play and I thought they were easy for everyone to play, but I've actually seen, you know, have friends try and they're like, oh, and I'm like, oh my god, maybe this is my instrument, you know. And so of course, yes, I'm going to put it in the music. So people would always come up to me and let me know, share stories about how my music helped them get through something or helped them, you know, make a decision or just, you know, all of these things that felt so much more than just someone saying, oh, like, you are a great singer or, oh, you're so pretty or whatever, it would always be, you know, we were like a lot of times end up crying together because we, you know, the stories are so like touching to me and they're always, they'll always say your music really helped me. And when I'm creating the music, it's really just to get through, you know, what I'm going through and helping me, you know, express myself and transform whatever the feeling is into some type of art. And it's a release for me. So I started to realize that the reason why I'm so compelled to share that is because I think the purpose, my purpose or one of my purposes is to help people deal, you know, and heal, you know, deal and heal. And when I discovered these crystal sound bowls and started playing them and then seeing how beautiful they were, I knew I wanted to incorporate it into my live shows. The thing is they are not just for any type of show, any type of setting. You have to be indoors so that you can, you know, feel the acoustics exactly. So I was doing a lot of festivals at the time and then there was like certain theaters that I will perform in and it just, the venues were not equipped for these bowls. And I'm like, how do I like take this on the road? Like, you know, am I going to do small shows and just little yoga studios? Like, what's, how am I going to do this? My sister, right? I think my sister, she sent me a link to wisdom. We went there and the owners ended up being there and then they're like, oh, you know, they knew who I was. And I'm like, oh my God, I want to do something here. I want to do like a sound bath slash, you know, concert slash like visual thing. And like you said, they have these like, it's an immersive experience where you just lay back and it feels like you're in virtual reality. So you're, it's, it's real, it's reality. And because you're in a dome, it feels like you're traveling through whatever you're looking at. And I'm like, this is perfect for the bowls because that's how the bowls make you feel even without having a visual in front of you or even when your eyes are closed. So we got together and we put this show together. I forgot to mention my sound bowl mentor. Her name is Jerrolyn Glass. She's like, she's amazing. She basically started to teach me about the healing aspects of these bowls and just music in general and sound in general. Something I'm still learning. I am still studying.

What does Jhene's name Chilumbo mean to her? (30:18)

And this experience, I knew that I wanted to travel with and I just wanted it to be a part of all of my shows. So I started to bring like other smaller bowls to venues, even when they said like this is probably not going to sound good. I'm like, let's just try. Like, at least we tried and we can say that we tried. But yeah, I've, I started having these, like this idea of like a lot of people listen to other, a lot of other types of music to like distract themselves. But that is no solution, you know, to distract yourself. So I'm like, if I can give people experiences like this and music like this, that, you know, maybe you do want to just put it on to forget about what you're going through or whatever. But when you're listening, there's that intention there and that real healing in there that is really going to resonate within your body and your spirit and actually help, you know, and help center you or ground you or, you know, whatever it is really that you turned on the song for. That's what that it's going to, it's going to help. Yeah, I recommend everyone go and watch the video and try and imagine you're in the experience. Yeah. Because I think like I was saying this to you before we started and I really do mean it that when I started coming across mantra and frequency and vibration and these conversations around how healing could take place through music and through words and through language, now I can't sing to save my life. So I've always deeply prayed and wanted for incredibly talented musicians to hopefully one day use their platform to do that because I just think that music is the most powerful thing in the world. And as you said, it's it can just be a distraction or it can truly be something that deeply touches the heart and heals the heart even more than just touching and to see you do it is just extremely hope giving for me. And by the end, it's different for different people like and this sounds totally random and strange but like for me growing up listening to rap music with extremely healing because for me being able to listen to someone who had a tougher experience than I did but giving me the permission to be able to express how I felt. And so I would sit and write poetry or spoken word when I was younger. Again I can't sing but I would I would write and I would share and I would think and I think even now when I journal or when I wrote my book or even when I do the podcast for me language is so powerful and words is so powerful. And when you put that to music or you put that to sound, it's it's out of this world. And so yeah, I felt like that was a universal experience that you were putting people into. There was there's also the other one that I've used a few years before which was the the one that was for triggers. Yes, yes. And and that's another great example of how you're creating stuff that's very specific for people. Tell us about tell us about why you created that one and where that okay. So working on my album which just means I'm living life and creating music at the same time I was going through a period of time where I felt very triggered and when I was at the peak of feeling triggered, I recorded a song called triggered and it was a freestyle and I just kind of just like let it all out. And immediately after I felt you know a release and I felt calm and I was working with my sound bowls at the time as well. And I'm like, I'm going to do a mantra or a song we call it modern mantra that can hopefully help people not reach that point of feeling enraged or chaotic or you know out of control because I know for me I can create a song when I'm feeling like that but you know other people need other outlets or a lot of the times they will turn to music. My intention was to have it be when you feel triggered, turn this on and I use it for myself too like I still do like on the plane and stuff like that when if I just need to calm down for anything. I'm like oh this actually is working because I got with my sound bowl teacher, Jerlyn and picked bowls that were very intentional, you know picked notes and alchemies of the bowls that were really going to aid in how it resonates within everyone that listens to it. Yeah, yeah I know it works. It's awesome like I said I've used it, I've shared it with people I think it's beautiful and again if you're listening or watching we'll put the links to all of this that I'm recommending because I'd love for you to use it and I'd love for you to share with Janae and I on Instagram how you're finding it because I think these are just really powerful tools like we always need something I often say to people like when you're hungry you don't panic because you know if you eat that you'll be satisfied but when we're anxious or when we're triggered or when we're nervous or when we're stressed we just create more panic because we haven't yet found the tool, the substance, the mindset that satiates that hunger and so but we have to view it the same there's there's no need to panic it's about finding that connection of of what activity or mindset can help help with that. Out of circling back to you talking about your roots and obviously this album being called Cholombo which is your surname, your family name it's interesting that we started talking about roots and you can see that in your work again of going that tell us about the importance of using that name and why that was so symbolic for you right now. My father chose the name Cholombo for himself when he was in his twenties I believe and growing up I don't remember when I learned that but it was it was pretty early and I don't know it made me feel like disconnected from it and then being in school people would not really make fun of it but they couldn't pronounce it and so it was kind of just like always annoying to me and I always would say I can't wait to get married so I could change my last name. It has I got older I really started to love it and love how it sounds and love how it looks and I started asking my dad more questions about why he chose that name and he has lots of different breakdowns of why he chose the name the spelling everything and then doing my own research I found out it was a word and I believe is pronounced Chichua I'm not sure how you pronounce but it's a language it's an African language and Cholombo means wild beast in that language and I was like oh that's cool I like that I like that and so for me it was all kind of like a metaphor for me like accepting myself and really acknowledging all the different parts of myself that make me who I am and embracing my wildness and embracing all that I am whether people don't understand it whether they can't pronounce it whether they think that I'm not really connected to that last name because it's not you know because my father chose it himself so yeah that was me just embracing all that I am and the fact that it means wild beasts I loved because I love dragons I was born in 1988 which is

Chilombo (38:16)

the year of the dragon and just dragons are like cool obviously I always wanted to be in the year of the dragon I'm 1987 so I just missed out almost but no I just I think it's a beautiful creature but it can be destructive but it's also graceful and I'm just like yes I feel like I'm all of these things and I feel like Cholombo represents all of these things and I feel like the album also represents all of these things it's not just me pretending to be perfect and you know I'm this healing this healer you know it's like I'm going through these real things and I'm dealing with them and I'm practicing how to heal and it's just you know all of that coming together is Cholombo that's a beautiful definition I love that yeah it's yeah it's so interesting because I guess we live in a world of chosen names as well whether people are actors or musicians or you know and the fact that your father chose a name it's it is it is almost powerful to come up with our own names and our own identities or because so often we don't feel connected right or we don't have a vision or a or a symbol for who we are and and it's almost like getting closer to that is such a powerful thing like as we've realized that icons and symbols and visuals are so important in our lives whether it's as simple as an emoji or whether it's a real you know it's a real emblem of who we stand for and what we are like but we see mascots we see that visualizing of who we are everywhere and sometimes the only vision we don't have is of us. Facts yeah it's it's it's nice to hear that definition of Cholombo that we also came up with me and my dad who I've gotten closer to as an adult we came up with our own little breakdown of it so Chi life energy force L so love the L is for love oh yes the sound of the universe be which comes from the foot in Egyptian hieroglyphics is the base foundation and then oh is everything and nothing all encompassing circle of life yes circle of life and so that's how we broke down to Lumbo which you can find if you order a physical copy of Cholombo we have like a little insert that like breaks it all down without all my extra words yeah no I love that I love that it's so right all of all of the breakdowns of it is perfect it's got such a it's got such a deep meaning and I love that you said the physical copy because I remember standing outside we had a store in in the UK where I grew up in London called hmv and I remember like standing outside hmv to buy like the CD when it came out and like I love looking at artwork and and just you know opening it up and seeing album covers and all of that so I totally when you said yeah get the real cover is a call yeah the physical there's there's definitely something in that but but that definition so beautiful we should we should create a beautiful Instagram there must be an Instagram graphic that you've created for that there is I did pass yeah I did post it the definition yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I posted the actual graphic of what we put in the yeah but I don't know I think there's you know I like to like you said hold things and feel them yeah talking about that and you mentioned on there being the sound of the universe like what do you think is a message that the universe has had for you over and over again that you've been learning surrender let go probably yeah which same thing but let go and I'm constantly because that's constantly in my head but I don't think it's in my I think it's coming from the universe let go and love love it definitely has a oh and it let go or love just be I think I think that I get a lot of messages from from the universe one thing that I used to do when I was younger that I didn't understand was probably considered now a meditation is I would sit in the sun because it felt good and just breathe and every time after maybe five minutes I would start getting these very clear in my head they were just like one liners you know it would be like like a little quote yeah and I'll be like what you know it might just it didn't feel like I was thinking of them it just felt like they were coming to me and it's something that I still do now that just feel like little downloads from the universe from the sun from just the atmosphere I don't know so yeah when I do that and when I'm really there in that moment breathing is just very clear messages that I usually write down I used to tweet them at one point when I was younger and then I felt like I couldn't give it away as soon as I got it I had to like process it process it and meditate on it and I really understand what what does that mean and so now I do that a lot more I still write them down for myself

Getting in Touch with Your Intuition (44:51)

but yeah I love that you when I'm when I'm hearing you speak today like I feel like and obviously this has taken work but you feel very in touch with your intuition and you're like in a voice tell us about that journey because I think a lot of people who listen sometimes struggle with like why don't know whether this is really my intuition or whether it's my ego or whether it's my inner voice or actually is it just my mind that's how yeah tell us a bit about how you clarify the difference between the two for yourself and how you've become closer to your intuition yeah I think that is more of a recent development within myself um I think naturally when I was younger in like grade school it was my intuition and I knew it but as I got older and more jaded by life I the voices grew and it was they multiplied and I just felt like oh my god I'm crazy you know and then in the line of work that I do I just had started to started to get a lot of anxiety about things and just really doubt myself and I feel like people close to me recognize it and me and my two friends are I am Felicia we decided to go on a trip to the Essalyn Institute have you heard of that I have haven't been there it's amazing um but a little retreat and she got me this book called I think this I think I remember the name of the book silencing your inner critic because she was doing my makeup at the time and you know it would always she would see me so stressed before shows or after shows and I would be like how was it like oh I felt like yeah you know I'll just be like so frustrated and she she never talked about it she just like gave me that book so I'm like oh okay you see that I'm dealing with something right now um and really that book had so many great points and really helped me realize that I'm not these voices I'm the observer of these yeah I'm I'm listening I'm not the I'm not them you know and so from that point on of reading that book I started listening to my thoughts differently and saying okay hi okay that's fine but you know you don't decide you know who I am or how I feel and reading more books that are you know just start at yours um you're familiar with Dr. Joel dispenser yes he's been on the podcast too oh amazing amazing becoming supernatural the seven spiritual laws of success oh gosh there's an audio book that I'm listening to that I don't remember the name of right now but just practicing because I was once again realizing that the habit of listening to these voices in my head and letting them control how I feel about myself and how I move daily I was mindful enough to see that it was not the best you know it wasn't the best practice so now I just practice you know the right things now I practice um doing things that I feel like are best for me and my development as a person um more audio books in the car opposed to music or no music um yeah silence I drive it's silence all the time there's never really silence also I realize there's always something something going on but that I love like natural sounds um yeah it can be really hard though and it's just something they have to keep practicing we

The Final Five (49:09)

usually end every episode with something called the final five this is a fast five round which means every answers either one word or one sentence maximum one word or one sentence correct okay okay you ready no I love the honesty the only person who's ever said that to me I love that I love I want to know let me prepare myself for fastness okay for speed okay okay okay I'm ready you ready yes okay Janae Eiko this is your first five the first question is what has helped your mental health this year sleep I love to be that is a great answer I couldn't I said it to people all the time literally if we just slept well so many gone yeah Karen you rest rest so like sleep slash rest cuz yes I think a good sleep is like when you're really resting and because you know have you ever had like a sleep where you wake up and you don't feel like you were actually asleep thousand percent yeah so okay rest is what I want one second question how do you personally refuel after pouring your heart into an album what happened sleep sleep again how do I refuel after you put your after you because I read I read that you were saying that you put your you know you were like physically mentally emotionally spiritually like it's it's draining to create a work of art like you could say rest again that's how do I refuel honestly rest great okay you can't give rest as the answer that's another rule I should add to the fast five about you can't give the same answer to more than one question all right third question what's the biggest lesson you've learned in the last 12 months it's not rest it's maybe it is maybe it can be right the biggest lesson I learned in the last 12 months through difficult situations when my energy fills are tangled up inside of me is rather than try to get through it with that anxious energy to slow down and to breathe through those moments something that I've knew sort of the idea of before and like read about like okay you know but I think the last 12 months have really taught me that lesson because I used to get really anxious and then it would just build on top of you know the anxiety the energy would just build on that instead of me just saying okay let's bring it in slow down the biggest lesson to breathe through it question number four what's something that you are confident about that others may disagree with you on or something that you're sure about that other people may not wrap their head around fully there's nothing cuter nothing more precious or magnificent as a cat cats are and I mean felines like lions tigers domestic house cats jaguars pumas mountain lions all of the cats are when you extended the family I could I could get into you see and that's what people don't understand about house cats is that they're just little tigers and lions like who doesn't want to experience that in there I always wanted a little cub like always so yeah yeah or a lion yeah probably all right fifth and final question I'm gonna try to do this one fast okay if you if you could create one law that the whole world had to follow what would it be it would be to share share your food share your home share your ideas share everything and it'll be always in exchange and no one would go without that's a beautiful answer very unique we've never had anyone say that that's awesome everyone's in the Ico tilumba the album please please please go and check out all the links that we're gonna put into the bio here at Gene thank you so much for doing this like this was so beautiful so special thank you I hope it's the start of a lifelong friendship I look forward to it and I'm so deeply grateful to have had you on the show everyone who's been listening or watching back at home or whether you're at the gym or whether you're walking or you've walking your cat or your dog please please please tag me

Outro (54:13)

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