Q&A With Tim — On Happiness, Dating, Depressive Episodes, and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show | Transcription

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Intro (00:00)

optimal minimal this altitude i can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking can i also do a personal question? now what a signal from peloton what a type of dial i'm a cybernetic organism living tissue over metal and choscallop me too ferris show this episode is brought to you by peloton i love peloton. peloton is a cutting edge indoor cycling bike that brings live studio classes right to your home you don't have to worry about fitting classes into your schedule making it to the studio where dealing with some commute to the gym i have a peloton bike in my master bedroom at home and it is one of the first things that i do in the morning i wake up meditate for 20 minutes and then i knock out a short 20 minute ride usually high intensity interval training or hit then i take a shower and i'm in higher gear for the rest of the day it's beautifully convenient and has become something that i actually look forward to and i was skeptical in the beginning i didn't think i would dig it and i really do so you have a lot of options for one if you like you can ride live with thousands of other peloton riders from across the country on the interactive leaderboard to keep you motivated i tend to use a lot of the classes on demand and have four to six of them that i've booked marked and use over and over again there are up to 14 new classes every day with thousands of classes on demand and there are a variety of workouts to choose from 45 minute classes 20 minute burns hip hop rock and roll low impact or high intensity pick the class structure and style that works for you peloton has an amazing roster of incredible instructors in your city they really do have great instructors of every possible personality and style and you can find one that you love no matter what you're in the mood for personally i use matt wilpers a lot but i use a bunch of them i'm promiscuous and enjoy classes from a lot of their instructors with real-time metrics you can track your performance over time and continue to be your personal best i did not think the gamification would work for me and they really hit the nail on the head it does work at least for me tremendously well to keep me pushing consistently so discover this cutting edge indoor cycling bike that brings the studio experience to your home peloton is offering listeners of this podcast a limited time offer go to one peloton.com that's spelled o-n-e-p-e-l-o-t-o-n dot com enter the code tim podcast all one word at checkout and get $100 off accessories with your peloton bike purchase get a great work at home anytime you want go to one peloton.com and use the code tim podcast to get started this episode is brought to you by linked in marketing solutions the go-to tool for b2b marketers and advertisers who want to drive brand awareness generate leads or build long-term relationships that result in real business impact could be all of the above i've had read hoffman co-founder of linked in on this podcast a number of times often called the oracle of silicon valley for many different reasons and he among other people and friends of mine have made me more and more interested in linked in as a platform as an ecosystem in the last few years and it's it's very nuanced it's very subtle but can be used in some very powerful ways with a community of more than 575 million professionals linked in is gigantic but it can be hyper specific you have access to a very diverse group of people all searching for things they need to grow professionally that is explicitly the purpose of linked in so you can build relationships that really matter that can drive your business objectives forward that can also have a high l tv lifetime value linked in has the marketing tools to help you target your customers with precision right down to among other things their job title company name industry etc this is important because better targeting equals a message that your customers actually care about and it also means your advertising is more effective and cost effective so why spray and pray with your marketing dollars when you can be surgical it just makes sense to redeem a free $100 linked in ad credit and launch your first campaign go to linkedin.com forward slash TFS that stands for Tim Ferris show so that is linkedin.com forward slash TFS check it out that's where you can go to get your free $100 ad credit linkedin.com forward slash TFS terms and conditions apply. Well hello boys and girls ladies and germs this is Tim Ferris welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferris show where's my job to sit down with world-class performers as you know each episode of all different types to tease out the habits routines favorite books and so on that you can apply and test in your own life well this time we have a slightly different format for the podcast as many of you know I tested a fan supported model for the podcast earlier in the year but I ended up reverting back to ads that's a very

Q&A Session

Thank You for Joining In During the Holiday Weekend! (04:27)

long story it's one worth telling but you can read more about it at tim.blog/podcastexperiment that is all to say one of the bonuses that I offered to supporters was a live video Q&A with me and we recorded those Q&As the audio in this podcast episode is the first round that we did we covered a lot of ground we ended up covering around 40 questions which is nuts there's a lot of fun the questions were excellent and while it was scheduled for one hour we went a bit longer I answered questions related dating depressive episodes which I've experienced of course major life transitions networking uncoupling happiness from achievement what I would hypothetically ask Richard Feynman at a dinner and much much more please note that there are a few small audio glitches where the connection was poor with the Wi-Fi that's one of the risks of doing these live sessions of course we've cleaned it up and it should be just fine it's not too bad I also want to reiterate how grateful I am to everyone who contributed to and supported the podcast as well as to all of you who listen to this podcast and take time from your busy and valuable schedule no doubt to spend a little bit of time with me I wouldn't be able to do what I do without all of you so thank you very much first foremost thanks to everybody who is joining in and if you're not joining in watching this later thanks all the same for supporting the podcast and all these various other things that I am up to you are in a small elite group emphasis on small end-elite and maybe I'll have some updates on that as we progress through the questions there are a few that are related to fan supported and it means a lot that you're here and welcome to the very first live video Q&A for supporters only and many of you submitted an up-loaded question so we will get to a bunch of those and there are a million-in-one questions coming in on the live chat and I will prompt questions just so I can look through and make some sense of selecting questions but let me jump in just to wet my appetite and limber up a little bit look at some of the questions that are here at random time or are you still working on the self-love book I think this is a reference to the book I alluded to with Greg McEwen and a book on self-love and healing which doesn't sound very sexy but it would really cover a lot of the experiments and adventures that I've had on and very much off the beaten path for the last five or six years I am working on that book and that book is going to be my main priority after I finish another book that should be announced very shortly. Stephanie Alzheimer's plus psychedelics latest research do you have a current stack for preventative or what I try on a family member with all's primers I am looking very closely at this the Paul Stamets episode that I did gets into this towards the end and he talks about what type of stack he might use for that or mitigating neurocognitive decline so I would take a look at that also worth looking at octanoic acid other types of medium chain triglycerides MCTs for potential application to Alzheimer's which some people consider to be brain diabetes. All right why don't we jump into some of the questions that you guys have submitted and up-footed and I recognize that up-owning is never perfect and it can be manipulated but fortunately it's only being manipulated by very small group of supporters and I will jump around I'm not going to do these in perfect order also because I grabbed the top 20 or so and put them into a Google document so let me jump into some of the more popular ones here.

Starting over dating. (08:44)

This is one that I also had some guest input on the questions from anonymous if you were 24 years old today and living in New York City how would you approach dating what assumptions rules are important how to become more successful with girls so this is pretty gender specific but the recommendations could apply to both and all genders. I'm going to begin with a piece of advice that was given to me by my lovely girlfriend who has actually provided dating coaching professionally and has even gone to the extent of having an earpiece in where she can hear and coach remotely someone who is on a date live so she knows what she's talking about and this advice is not specific to males but just to make it simple I'm going to answer it from the standpoint of a male. Her advice was go to the same restaurant or coffee shop or bar probably better bar or restaurant multiple days in advance before the date and then make that your go-to location for the date why would you do this this is also advice by the way that I've had in the four hour chef particularly effective if you start off peak hours so if you do it say on a Monday Tuesday Wednesday by the time you get to Friday this staff is going to know you you can have a preferred table one insider question is what is the number for this table so at the at the pass where service staff will go then pick up or at least I should say front of the house will go pick up dishes and deliver them more often than not each table have a number so you can figure out what your favorite number is you could refer to it you know the appetizers you know the best dishes you'll get special favors preferential treatment etc this does a bunch of things number one it removes a lot of uncertainty and a lot of unknown variables number two it gives you confidence very helpful things on a first date now how would you approach dating that is how to implement I suppose on some level first date if you're in New York City I have to tell you if you're looking for girls also you're in a high a target rich environment so you could do a lot worse I and it depends on what you're optimizing for so if you're looking for sport and recreation there would be one approach and I think that if you're looking for more some of the same portfolio of tools would apply I mean frankly Bumble Tinder etc in New York City it's not like oh closest date 14 miles away it's like oh closest date 14 potential date 14 feet away it is very dense dense environment I do think that some of the kind of baseline this is gonna sound strange but like philosophical underpinnings are worthwhile to read like the way of the Spiritman by David Data I don't agree with everything in that book but I do think that if we're talking about heteronormative male seeking eligible female that there is there's some valuable information to be found in that book but I make no claims to be a dating expert how to be more successful don't be desperate also there's a there's a there's a maximum in negotiating he or she who cares the least wins and I'm not saying that that should be your goal to rule for dating but if you exude confidence because you have the confidence that you will have other options other opportunities that in my experience is a huge advantage over many people you may be competing against and let's not get ourselves it is a mating competition so those are my thoughts on starting over if I were 24 living in New York City how would I approach dating those are a few of the thoughts that I would have next

Battling depression. (13:18)

this is from Larry if you were comfortable talking about it do you still get depressive episodes you know what let me take a step back also anonymous this is going to probably get me into hot water but screw it one of my friends is Neil Strauss as as many of you know who wrote the game recently which has been somewhat apologetic for but nonetheless in that book that for a male who does not have confidence when interacting with women which really means does not have experience interacting with women or at least initiating that type of contact a lot of the exercises are I think very very useful very very helpful and it's it's a slippery slope and there's a lot of manipulative and kind of skeezy stuff in the pickup world but a lot of it is pretty supported by a kind of behavioral psychology and conditioning right so if you look at a book like don't shoot the dog which is about about mammalian training which is mostly applied in this book to dogs but could be applied to dolphins and could also be applied humans you want to be if you feel you lack confidence in interacting with women and I do think confidence is certainly an attractor that you can condition and train yourself to be more confident it is not a mental trick in other words I am asked quite often how do I build confidence or how can I how can I this is me reading between the lines think my way into being more confident and I don't think you can I think you can train your way into being more confident because your inner self will always know if you're simply going through mental gymnastics to create an illusion of yourself as confident the way you build confident is by doing things that are just outside of your comfort zone and repeatedly doing so much like you would by going into the gym and having progressive resistance increasing the discomfort and the range of comfort so that your your sphere of comfortable action expands okay so that's the footnote to the first question Larry your question if you're comfortable talking about it you still get to press of episodes if yes have you learned to live with them if yes what are your top three tips I have not had very fortunately knock on wood at major depressive episode in the last five or six years I attribute this to a lot of things I'm not a doctor I don't play one on the internet it's extremely important to further and is related to this I won't talk about anything that would imply I'm recommending doing something illegal since these compounds are illegal in many places and they are not sufficient in and unto themselves but this is part of the reason I'm supporting a lot of science in places like Johns Hopkins Imperial College London and elsewhere there are also a lot of tools that I think can be very valuable Byron Katie the work I would encourage looking at if you feel like you are a prisoner to thought loops that may not be the most beneficial or helpful that is a set of exercises and questions you can find for free online that I would recommend Tony Robbins controversial figure in a lot of respects but many of his exercises the Dickens process included I found to be very very powerful defining the driving values and whether or not you may have competing values and goals very important other things that I have developed as habits which are really foundational would be exercise it's very easy to try to think your way out of a funk or some type of depression and as Tony would say I'll quote him again you start with state your physical state then story the story you tell yourself and then the strategy but if you're in a depressed state the story you have is going to be class half full it's going to be cloudy with a chance of rain and therefore the strategy you come up with is going to be inferred by that negative state so first is exercise and I really do whenever possible try to get some type of physical motion in the morning and right beside me now for instance is a kettlebell I ordered it on Amazon it was shipped prime and this morning I wanted to get directly to doing some writing but did about 30 swings with this kettlebell beforehand very minimal effective to a sub exercise but just enough sort of change my hormonal state to activate my my tire nervous system which changes the lens through which I look at any problem that might pop up during the day second is certainly diet and third this is not necessarily an order of importance is sleep and I highly recommend checking out a podcast episode with Matt Walker and Peter Atia this is on the drive a podcast hosted by Peter Atia Matt Walker also wrote a book called Why We Sleep that has been recommended by multiple podcast guests most recently Amanda Palmer and there are a few other questions here that we'll also have and or I should say relate to one of the tips for avoiding depressive episodes or potentially reversing a tail spin so this question here is what would you suggest is from anonymous and related to what we were just talking about what would you suggest to an individual considering a major life transition example given stable successful career care entrepreneur what were your key considerations and that applies to the depressive stuff in the following capacity I would recommend fear setting the fear setting exercise and you can find that on tim.blog/ted it was the subject in part of my Ted presentation which at this point has five million or so or six million views and fear setting takes whatever is causing your fear uncertainty or doubt in your mind which can often precipitate loops that lead to physiological and psychological depression and puts them under a microscope and dissects them which is incredibly valuable because it plays out worst case scenarios in a very systematic way so that you can see that the absolute worst case scenarios are in most cases either avoidable reversible or very temporary okay so the answer to the what can an individual do if they're considering a major life transition and what can you do to avoid or mitigate depressive episodes in this instance have the same answer which is do the fear setting exercise I still do this exercise all the time I would say at least once quarter more like once a month

Tim's system for reading a lot of books (20:25)

okay next question here I'm going to tackle this from Dean Harrington do you have a process or tool that helps you read so many books there are a few things there is a short supposed exercise training approach that I've used for increasing reading speed and if you just search Tim Ferriss and speed reading on google it should pop right up and there are a number of different tools that I outlined they're all free and you can very easily double or triple your reading speed but that says nothing about selection and I do think selection is key here because it doesn't pay to read a lot of garbage quickly and so you have the technical aspect of developing better motor control when reading but your question is specifically read so many books how do I read so many books number one is finding really good books it makes it easier to read books if they're outstanding and I will rely very much on my podcast guests quite frankly and look for patterns look for books that are recommended more than once I also prefer old to new so I look for books that have in some respect stood the test of time and I strongly prefer books that are at least five years old we could talk about classics in an entirely separate category but books that have really uh demonstrated a longevity through word of mouth and a sustained minimum of say four stars on amazon and once I then download these books so this is one of the keys I will read in electronic format because my next move I think of really absorbing key takeaways and next actions more than I think about the volume of reading read and kindle format then I will go to the kindle notes or notebook URL uh which which you can access when you're logged into amazon I will then use evernote to scrape the entire page of my highlights for that book I will then go into the evernote document and I will do a in this case it's at least a third pass of this key material and I'll put three asterisks at the beginning of key material sometimes I'll also bold it and what this allows me to do then when I want to review the key takeaways of a book which could be uh fiction by the way it's not limited to nonfiction I also take these types of notes in many fiction books for turns of phrase that I might want to study beautiful paragraphs uh the the structure of which I want to to really look at repeatedly or leadership lessons in dune for instance and I'll put these three asterisks before key parts in this evernote document and that allows me to then let's just say I'm like huh dune what were what were the things I felt were really really important after looking at it three times go into that document and do control F to search for three asterisks and then I can I can find all sorts of of goodies very very quickly like that and spend five minutes uh finding what I want rather than going through a paperback version even if I've created an index in the beginning of the book for searching for content uh if I only have a paper back and I've created an index at the beginning of the book for my own highlights and if you search how to take notes like an alpha geek or something ridiculous that I used as a headline many years ago you'll see examples of these indices that I've created and I will sometimes when traveling only be able to get a paperback I will create that type of index I'll come back and then I'll use Task Grab It or something else or have one of my employees scan the index and the pages that have highlights uh in some cases if I feel it is a particularly valuable book I will have them that then download the Kindle version themselves pull the highlights from the scans that they see from that text and create a copy and pasteable editable version of those highlights for me very long answer but there you have it uh next Jesse in your opinion or experience do the workouts in the four-hour body still apply if on

Applying The 4-Hour Body workouts to a ketogenic (keto) diet (24:54)

a keto diet instead of the slow carb diet that was originally the book so if you are on a ketogenic diet do the workouts still apply if you are on keto that is running on ketones as your preferred fuel instead of the slow carb diet which would be a low glycemic but still uh predominantly glucose based diet if we're talking about brain and heart and so on many of the workouts will still apply and they can still be used in other words if you're on an extended keto diet you're going to have low insulin levels or lowered insulin levels insulin is a highly anabolic hormone so if for instance you're following Occam's protocol in the four-hour body which is intended to be paired with a higher calorie loading phase for increasing muscular mass it will be more difficult to add muscle on a ketogenic diet than on a slow carb diet there are many variations of the ketogenic diet that increase your ability to add muscle mass the ckd or cyclical ketogenic diet is one such example maro di pascual or di pascuale i don't know how he pronounces his name had the anabolic diet which was in effect what i'm describing is cyclical ketogenic diet dan douchein also had a diet which was very much this type of cyclical ketogenic diet and with the ckd and at least one iteration of it that i used very very effectively when i was in college this was a hundred years ago but nonetheless very effective was ketogenic diet for five or six days a week then a glycogen depletion workout the morning of let's call it cheat day but it's sort of glycogen saturation day and then a window of high carbohydrate consumption and then it would take say another day or two to get back into ketosis and there are certainly tools you can use to accelerate that i would not recommend using injectable insulin which is what some bodybuilders would do and it can be very very dangerous it could be fatal so do not do that but there are tools that some people can use responsibly like alpha lipoic acid and others to accelerate the descent into ketosis there are other things that are non-pharmacological that can increase your descent or i say the speed of your descent into ketosis like extended moderate walking drinking a lot of water sounds silly but it really works and you can ask peter etia and others about that certainly as far as references for the ketogenic diet go Dominic Dagastino knows just about everything there is to know about ketones and many have written on the subject including the names i mentioned earlier maro di pascual or di pascuali sorry if i'm mangling your name the late Dan duchein d-u-c-h-a-i-n-e but i believe it is and many others all right uh deter if you started out creating one today what would be the route you'd probably take given the tools and tech of 2019 um use for those who

Creating a Muse (agile business) in 2019 (28:14)

do not recognize the term in this particular context refers to and a primarily automated cash flow optimized business as described in the four hour work week and uh the four work week for the most part holds up i did a revised edition in 2009 and it became very quickly clear i have thought about doing perhaps some updates to that but the book will always be slower than the technology so the the technology for implementing the principles will change but the principles themselves remain the same for instance the for our body i talk about doing market sizing and uh testing using various type of niche publications like magazines that is adorably antiquated of course at this point but if you understand the principles behind the testing you can now use uh facebook advertising and say optimisely on your site and shopify uh to accomplish what would have taken months in the span of several days and that is an example of adapting the principles to new tactics that are not contained in the book i do not have a recommendation for type of muse one of the most common questions i get is what product should i create what trends should i capitalize on now and my answer to that is if you are not willing to at least attempt to answer that for yourself you shouldn't do it at all because you will not be able to improvise and adapt sufficiently well to run a or to architect and then run whether hands-on or by system uh a business as i described in the four hour work week if it's extremely easy for you to identify a trend and you pick a product that you think you can then private label or dropship or film the plank in a very low labor way chances are you're going to have a lot of competition and what that will mean is you'll be tempted to engage in a race to the bottom with discounting and that will violate one of the principles in the four hour work week when i talk about different multiples of cogs right cost of goods and creating a margin of safety with higher pricing ideally premium pricing which provides you all sorts of insurance against factors outside of your control that can can wreak havoc okay next question from matt would given what is known about the benefits of intermittent fasting do you still stand by the 30 grams per

30g of protein within 30 minutes of waking up while practicing intermittent fasting. (31:04)

team within 30 minutes of waking up recommendation for our body yes i do i do stand by it and the reason is my my first criterion for any type of behavioral change uh or new behavior that i might try myself or recommend is it adherence will i or will other people actually follow this protocol to the extent that it needs to be followed let me give you an example of low adherence high adherence low adherence even though i am a fan of the ketogenic diet it is the type of diet that has a very binary outcome based on your degree of compliance so if you follow a ketogenic diet 80 percent of the day but eat a hundred grams of carbohydrates in the other 20 percent uh you could just create a train wreck of your blood lipids and body composition it could be a complete mess whereas you do get partial credit following the slow carb diet and there is a cheat day built into the system which acts as a psychological release valve and the degree of compliance with the with say the slow carb diet is much higher than something that is all or nothing whether it's all or nothing physiologically and this is very simplified of course but it as would be the case in a strict ketogenic diet or if it's ideologically uh all or nothing in the case of say very strict keto or very strict veganism as so number one is compliance it's a not effectiveness number one is will people do it and to what extent and will they do it to the extent necessary for it to be number two effective how effective is it does it produce the result desired have we defined the metric that we are going to measure okay how are we going to know when we have succeeded that's effective and then efficient does it allow us to do what we have aimed to do in a measurable way in the most time or resource efficient manner available to us so it may just be relative to other things 30 grams of protein within 30 minutes waking up is is absolutely achievable for almost everyone it's very very easy to do intermittent fasting is not achievable or not sustainable for many people and it's very common I do practice intermittent fasting I do a lot of fasting and for anyone who has read tools of titans for instance there are many examples of different formats you can use for fasting for different purposes a lot of people I know and I've corroborated this in discussions with people who run body composition measuring facilities with say DEXA scan and other tools that many people who attempt intermittent fasting but are unable to follow it to the letter will compensate with tons of caffeine with tons of binging later which it may lead them to ignore the composition of their food because they justify it with their intermittent fasting and in some cases the figureheads of intermittent fasting use a lot of antibiotics and one of the wonderful things about antibiotics putting aside all of the possible side effects is that you can do all sorts of things that would lead to muscle wasting without antibiotics and not suffer the consequences so that is a somewhat winding and broad-ranging answer to your question but short answer yes given what is known about the benefits of intermittent fasting do I still stand by 30 grams per team within 30 minutes waking up yes I do and skeptics might say 30 grams within 30 minutes that's so specific it's ridiculous why not 20 grams why not 40 grams and the answer is compliance 30 within 30 is fucking easier to remember that's why I use 30 yeah it might be 27 it might be 22 it might be 43 I'm not looking for the tail end of diminishing returns I just know that 30 within 30 is something people can easily remember and it's something they can implement very easily okay so we are 30 minutes in to this Q&A I'm going to hop over to the live questions and I'm going to answer a few here and then potentially jump back into the up-footed questions all right we have a question from Vell "podcast are getting competitive and crowded will there be a shift in your strategy what's new?"

Podcasts and networking. (35:33)

I have never thought of competition in the world of podcasting and in a way I've never thought of competition in the world of books either or really anything that I've done in the last seven to ten years and that is a bit of sort of semantic tightrope let me describe what I mean I don't think of competition because I always aim to create a category of one you can yes choose to sort of conceptually view yourself as a competitor in a crowded arena and play by the same set of rules and measure your success by the same outcome measures that people are using or you can ask yourself how would I create something that is a category unto itself something that is entirely different or how can I ignore competition entirely what are the assumptions baked into say podcasting what are the CPM rates what this is for advertising purposes but what is the range that has been for whatever reason accepted as the boundaries of acceptable among the top 20 podcasts that fit a certain profile can that be changed can I experiment with ultra short can I experiment with ultra long can I have guests on no one has ever heard of and make them the most downloaded episodes that have ever been published on the podcast the answer is yes I am always trying to be different and better different it's very important and then better is based on criteria that I set for myself so I think that things may change in terms of how I approach the podcast but it's going to be very much internally dictated and there are a few things that have informed this quite a bit you got many of you have heard me recommended a million times but 1,000 true fans by Kevin Kelly the 22 immutable laws of marketing is a book that has come up recently actually in conversation with many of my friends who are exceptionally exceptionally adept in their various worlds of business and specifically the law of category chapter in the 22 immutable laws of marketing and Derek Sivers I think his book is how to get anything you want that's a great book I've read it dozens of times has little short chapters effectively philosophical vignettes with stories that illustrate also a lot of shared DNA that he and I have so that is my answer to that live question here in the chat and let's see what else we got here all right leaf I think it is leaf Olsen how do you network and get connected to people that you have no connection to do you simply continue to provide value until they bring you into their circle let me answer the second part first I do not think of adding value and I certainly never ask how can I add value that's a huge red flag for me when someone asks me that because I know that it is it is they're basically engaging in foreplay before they get to the main act of bending me over barrel and asking me for a huge favor so I certainly never asked for that and the way you network is by playing the long game is the short answer and that answer then informs the strategies and the tactics there is a video of me there's also a podcast episode on this called how to build a world-class network in record time and this particular approach that I outlined in that and I'm not going to try to give you the answer right now because you can find it so easily but if you search south by southwest sxsw how to build a world-class network in record time tim ferris it'll pop right up uh is really reflective of the military dictum slow is smooth and smooth is fast so if you want to go fast if you wanted you think quickly in certain areas paradoxically it pays to look at it very meticulously and to move very methodically in a slow way and play the long game you have a tremendous competitive advantage when you do this Jeff Bezos is and Amazon are a perfect example of that when your time horizon can be pushed out further than those who view themselves as your competitors and if you are trying to network above your weight class make no mistake you are a competitor because you are competing for a finite resource called attention that these in your mind high value individuals might have and part of that strategy is looking for people you could legitimately develop a friendship with a relationship with that would last say at least 10 years and the proof is in the pudding many of the people I met and developed friendships with say at south by southwest in 2007 the first time I was there which was a tipping point for the four-hour work week are still my friends today all right let's jump back into the questions live chat uh daschiel daschiel

How do you avoid making a mess of conversations about politics? (41:48)

I think it is bark who's I'm sure I'm killing that name uh you rarely talk politics is this a policy of yours what's your thought process behind this do you have any tips on addressing controversial topics elegantly I do avoid politics absolutely and I would however say that I I look forward to addressing many controversial subjects or discussing many controversial topics if I think that people who are listening in the case of the podcast are open to changing their position or modifying their perspective if they are looking for education as opposed to an opponent to fight because they have a position and they spend most of their time locked in confirmation bias looking for any data any headline any bit of news to support what they already believe to be true which I find to be the case in politics it is just a swamp of monsters that is not worth waiting through generally speaking very similar of course to religion and many hot button issues I I'm open and actually eager to discuss controversial topics if I think that by bringing experts say onto the podcast or extremely thoughtful intelligent people who have looked at something from multiple perspectives I can provide stories and data to people listening that will allow them to make better decisions and if they hear a compelling case for it to change their position but if everyone coming to the party has already decided what they believe and it's just a matter of rolling up their sleeves and punching one another in the face then I have very little interest which yes is the reason I have very very few politicians on the show and if I have someone on the show who is very very right leaning I almost always compensate or balance that out by having someone who is very very left leaning if someone asked me a pointed question about specific issues I'm happy to give my personal perspective that I don't shy away from but bringing on politics to discuss politics is rarely of interest to me and I actually talk about this somewhat at length if you do want to hear a length your discussion about how I think about politics which is probably naive in many respects but I'm really focused on like information people will use to make positive changes for themselves and others so I generally steer clear but Ezra Klein I believe am I getting the last name from Rolorong? Ezra of Vox and I had a conversation specifically about this which you can find on the podcast Vincent Michaud, here we go with the names more names I can't pronounce, M-I-C-H-A-U-D. If I had to pick one interview from the Many in Tools of Titans which one would you choose and why?

Your favorite interview from Tools of Titans and why? (45:04)

It's impossible for me to choose one for all seasons because each of those are so personal for me and it's separated out into healthy, wealthy and wise so categorically they're really for different purposes but it's hard to go wrong with Nival Robakunt the density of insight per sentence is very difficult to beat right let me jump in to another question Robby Wade why don't you do Tim Ferriss conferences primarily because I prefer the flexibility of being able to have a one to many interaction through the podcast particularly in a recorded format that can then be shared with millions of people at a time. I have done conferences before not specifically for or about Tim Ferriss but rather about content marketing which were very successful and in fact one event I did I think it was eight years ago has a Facebook group that is still active to this day eight years later it's quite remarkable so perhaps at some point I'll consider doing events but for the purposes of sharing teaching and expertise and information from those who are the best at what they do which is what I try to do on the podcast I find the podcast to be a better vehicle.

Why no Tim Ferriss conferences (yet)? (45:28)

All right you know this is a vague question but I'm going to take stab at it anyway general advice for 23 year old number one start meditating do it first thing in the morning 10 to 20 minutes and if in doubt try TM I find to have a high compliance rate which once again is my first criterion other things advice for a 23 year old is really the advice I would have given myself at 23 and 30 and beyond would be optimized for skills and relationships so when you choose projects try to ensure that you can win even if you fail and the person I know who's developed this thinking the most and his writing is Scott Adams the creator of Dilbert and he's written about career advice related to this so a few things number one if you choose projects based on the skills you'll develop and the relationships you will build with people who are very good at what they do those skills and those relationships will transcend and outlive the project even if the project fails which means in my mind over time you cannot fail if you are very consistent in using those two criteria and also this is directly from Scott who by the way predicted just about everything with Trump in my podcast interview with him which is was was eerily prescient and highly accurate but that's a complete aside just to get everybody's panties in a twist in one way or another had to invoke the T word he talks about the difference between becoming the best in the world in one skill so let's just say for the sake of argument a LeBron James or a Warren Buffett and combining two seldom combined skills and Mark and recent has referenced Scott Adams as it relates to this say a law degree and

Best advice for a 23-year-old? (47:59)

computer science degree or a vast career of negotiating where you have experienced negotiating at high levels with public speaking and fill in the blank perhaps you went to a code camp like or Lambda school it's much more than a camp but you have that complimentary skill that you've laid on top of these other two and that combination of three as a Venn diagram puts you in very rarefied company that allows you to compete and that allows you to stand out and be what be different and better to play by your own rules why because you have not developed yourself as a jack of all trades but a Jack or a Jane of two or three that are rarely seen in combination that works energetically epic bear cat do you drink a glass of wine every night I do not actually the the last few months have seen me drinking very very little and I've probably had I don't know something like five glasses of alcoholic beverages in the last few months I mean very little alcohol so go figure maybe Timmy's growing up I do like this don't get me wrong but I found that the more I meditate the more I have developed

Personal Development And Learning Techniques

Do you really hate all wine? (49:14)

try to develop sensitivities just and this this could get out into pretty strange territory quickly but sensitivities which which really means just paying attention to nature being in nature more often listening very carefully paying attention to my kinesthetic response to people and things the more intense and exaggerated my response to alcohol is meaning rather than having three drinks and feeling it the next day I drink two drinks and I have splitting headache immediately at the dinner table so the appeal of alcohols has has diminished a lot and I think there's a place for it for me there is a place for it the disinhibiting social lubricant that it provides can be very helpful and fun but it is also for me a dulling agent and right now I don't want to dull I want to develop sensitivities let's jump back into the submitted and upvoted questions and for those people who are still on I will say I know that we're supposed to only have about 12 minutes left but I will go over so I'm happy to go over and try to answer more questions I can't promise you exactly how long I'll go over but I will go longer than an hour because you guys are oh for awesome if anybody can catch that reference and pick that out bonus points give you a hint it relates to a boxer all right question from anonymous this is upvoted everybody talks about the same things for reaching your goals persistence grit focus etc what are the things and ugly things nobody talks about this is a good question I don't know if my answer will include ugly things but it might include things that are less sexy to talk about all right let me reread the question so that everybody can really take it in

Troubleshooting your goals and persistence (51:30)

everybody talks about the same things for reaching your goals persistence grit focus etc what are the things and ugly things nobody talks about number one I would say is talking to those who have approached the skill before to ask them when you should expect sticking points and plateaus or dips in performance or morale and I do this quite a lot and you can map it out in the four hour chef which is really a book about accelerated learning I show a map effectively if it's a diagram and it's very loose of course that used to be on it might still be on a whiteboard at Y Combinator in Mountain View Y Combinator for people who don't know also known as YC it's kind of the seal team six Harvard Dean's List of startup incubators I know it's more than an incubator but it's produced some incredible alumni and companies like Dropbox Airbnb Reddit etc highly highly competitive application process and highly highly coveted positions within that are often lead to quite a bit of funding for quite a few companies there they have a whiteboard and part of the whiteboard shows the common trajectory of startup experience and there's a portion called the trough of sorrow and this trough of sorrow is very common in other words you have the idea on the back of the napkin oh my god we're going to be the next Steve Jobs we're going to build a multi-billion dollar company you happen to put together a deck maybe even a version one prototype that gets people really excited you're built on top of AWS and a bunch of other stuff oh my god we're the cats meow we just raised ten million dollars we are the kings or queens of the world and then surprise now the next few months you actually have to build this fucking thing and go out and recruit users and customers and you can run into a lot of rude surprises that aren't as full of sugar highs as perhaps the preceding handful of weeks and there's that trough of sorrow that people can enter into and stay in for quite a long period of time and here's the the great aspect of what sounds like a very depressing story this is predictable this is predictable what does that mean if you know that you're going to run into one lane availability in other words like the highway is going to be broken down into one lane 20 miles from now it is not going to have the psychological impact on you that it would if you're driving along on a tight schedule and you hit traffic and ahead of you let's say a half mile away is is the construction that's breaking down the highway to one lane your psychological response if you anticipate it is going to be much more measured it will be much calmer you may even have had a chance subconsciously to prepare yourself so that you view it as part of the process as opposed to a gigantic problem that is inflicting misery upon you and you become less of a victim this is true for physical training certainly many types of physical training uh coach summer so m m e r in these secrets of gymnastics strength training episode that i did talks about this at length because your muscular adaptation will outpace the development of the connective tissue necessary for a lot of the gymnastics techniques or positions postures movements etc you have to be aware of that so number one is uh identifying in advance when you're going to experience the trough of sorrow and there may be multiple points in language acquisition this is what i did in the four-hour chef i took a a nearly identical graph to my combinator startup graph and put it on the same page or the same two-page spread to show that in language learning there are also predictable plateaus predictable dips say when you go from very basic set phrases and you know i ate the apple i eat the apple to more complicated grammatical constructions like subjunctive you know if but i had a million dollars i would this you know if i had been these types of hypothetical cases can get very tricky in different languages when you learn those and begin to attempt them uh you will feel that your baseline performance because now you have you have more input kind of gumming up your software has dropped for a period of time and what that can then inform is of a hundred people you being one of the ten who actually continues because you know there's a light at the end of the tunnel this is something that is supposed to happen that always happens okay so that that is the first thing i would say about reaching your goals is that it is not a straight line it is not a hockey stick from the bottom left to the top right it rarely is perhaps there are some exceptions but it rarely rarely is uh that would be number one the second thing i would say is there are a few things you want to figure out in advance and i'm pretty sure this corresponds to chinese proverb of some type or another or maybe a country western song you want to know the rules of the game if you're say engaging in a project or a competition particularly if there are you know counter parties if there are opponents if they're teammates what are the rules of the game what have we agreed to have we agreed to rules of the game if not it makes sense to explicitly define what those are what are the stakes so what is the potential upside potential downside what am i stand to lose in a worst case scenario in a realistic case scenario what i stand to gain in best case etc doing this type of calculus understanding what stakes are and then last this is the one that gets neglected what is quitting time can i decide in advance what the checkboxes should be for when i walk and if you don't do that in advance in pursuing goals uh it is very easy to end up persisting and persisting towards a goal that is no longer worth focusing on just trying to decide in advance at what point do the downsides to the costs end up outlaying the potential benefit of this outcome what is quitting time what qualifies as quitting time uh and you know the fastest way to take something off your to-do list is to not do it at all uh and i i'm blanking on the program who said it but the fastest code is no code similar philosophy that which should not be done at all should not be done well uh it should not be done uh okay those are a few thoughts on uh reaching your goals and let me go to some additional questions here Richard Fantosy how about an update on how the ad-free podcast is working out from a sustainability standpoint what trends you are seeing from the initial announcement okay so it's been fascinating and the overwhelming response has been i can't believe this still but it's it's it's hard for me to refute the data uh if we want to take literally hundreds of comments as data uh my listeners rely on me to a very large

What I've learned about ad-free podcasts (59:00)

extent for finding new products and services and they know that i vet and highly filter the products and services that make it through the gauntlet of reviewing and testing to become sponsors and they like the ads uh so the the number of uh the number of supporters has been surprisingly low and uh the number of people who have uh expressed regret that the ads have disappeared has been very surprisingly high uh it also requires quite a bit of labor for the fan supported aspect of this uh not referring to this type of q&a i enjoy doing this type of q&a uh and this type of audio for instance could be used for the podcast as promised no sooner than a month after we have done this together uh but uh we shall see we shall see uh but as it stands right now the the majority of feedback has been we prefer uh ad supported which which is really surprising to me but sometimes reality doesn't conform to what you expect and you continue to adjust uh so i will i will be looking very closely at numbers and feedback over the next uh few weeks all right riley riley spiller a zone of genius and to mention one more time guys i know we're coming up on the hour mark i said i would do this for an hour i'm going to go longer so i'll probably go for at least another 15 minutes to try to answer more of your questions and i will go back to the live questions to try to answer some of those riley spiller the zone of genius in quotation marks you touched on this in your recent weight skin interview that's referring to josh weight skin one of my favorite people in the world seems crucial to know

Determining how to be more effective learner. Finding your learning style (01:00:58)

what kind of learner you are how does one determine this so josh and i have perhaps a slightly different uh opinion or view of learning style uh i think that it is helpful to know how best you absorb material that is worth absorbing whether that's through say audio format like audio book text video or otherwise but that it is very beneficial to train yourself to be more efficient and effective at uh vetting consuming highlighting and reviewing written material uh because you have just a huge competitive advantage if you're able to do that and i already answered how i do that with uh books in kiddle format earlier in this q and a so i'm not going to do that again now but determining what kind of learner you are uh is something i have not focused on all that much myself i am highly visual uh and despite the fact that i live in a world of audio with the podcast which has just recently passed 400 million downloads i expected it to take longer which is a which is a really incredible milestone so it's about probably close to maybe exceeding a billion hours of listened content which is completely bonkers uh i'm highly visual and uh so i have a bias towards visual information uh but uh there there are some folks also that that's molly shakener color in the background uh which is uh bimodal in other words people who will for instance take an audio book put it on one and a half or two x and assuming that it has whisper sync or in in some sense it's the same as uh the text they will read along as they are listening to increase their retention i find it easier to uh really dramatically increase your reading speed say three to five x which you can do as i mentioned earlier just by searching uh speed reading and my name and you'll find all sorts of free tutorials uh no email capture no nothing you can find it on the blog timb.blog for free then you can do multiple passes of chapters that you determine have information you would like to retain i find multiple passes rather than more careful reading to be a real key approach if you're focusing on retention i tend to not worry about retention i focus more on effective highlighting and winnowing down the material to smaller and smaller subsections using those three asterisks that i mentioned earlier in this q&a.

Format or tips for retaining information when reading (01:04:15)

Diana horn can you share your note taking format or tips when reading books with an eye to retaining and accessing key takeaways later on i think i've mentioned this most but i will refer again to the how to take notes like an alpha geek i believe the ridiculous headline was that i used and that shows you actual screenshots of my note taking and describes some of how i approach this. Jordan how do you get away from a goal-oriented mindset where happiness becomes dependent on achievement uh part of it for me at least is i think these are two separate things in other words implied in the question and this this this i think is a skill unto itself that is worth paying attention to when you are looking at a statement or a question can you identify the assumptions that are built into that statement or question uh and that is very helpful for finding your own thinking it's also very helpful for not replying to questions that paint you into a corner uh

Getting away from a goal-oriented mindset (01:04:38)

all right so implied in the question and that's molly drinking water in the background you're welcome audio verite how do you get away from a goal-oriented mindset where happiness becomes dependent on achievement so implied in the question is that if you don't get away from a goal-oriented mindset you will be trapped in a mindset where happiness is dependent on achievement i don't think that's the case i think you can have both and not either or so you can have a goal-oriented mindset plus an appreciation oriented practice you can still achieve goals and have systems for achieving goals and simultaneously have practices for cultivating appreciation yes goals and appreciation can cohabitate they can survive side by side and i think one of the most effective it might be overstating it to say approaches that i've taken or absorbed from other people uh for uncoupling happiness from being dependent on achievement is realizing that if you are not happy with what you have or if you cannot be happy with what you have nothing you ever get will make you happy and this is evidenced very clearly in observing hundreds of people i have met over the years who have tens of millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars billions of dollars in some cases who simply experience now more magnified versions of their previous neuroses and concerns uh so if if we assume and this this will not be true for everyone but if we assume that achievement is a focus because people want to succeed and that success is often measured in dollars or money that uh money like alcohol and power tend to make you more of what you already are okay so money alcohol and power all tend to exaggerate characteristics you have all tend to exaggerate strengths and weaknesses that you have if you're a moderate asshole at a hundred grand a year and then you make it a million dollars a year you will probably be a major asshole if you are moderately generous you might be majorly generous once you have more but these tend to be amplifiers uh so it's it's helpful also to this is going to sound strange but read about miserable rich people uh and conversely spend time with people who have very little who uh have found routines and built community and engage in community in such a way that they seem to have quite a high baseline of quality of life and happiness contentedness may be a better word this is very common I think in places like Costa Rica many places in central and south america latin american general so I try to spend time in those environments observing that combined with gratitude practices realizing that if you cannot be happy if you cannot appreciate what you have now nothing you get will change that default state of mind hopefully that's happy uh john parker if you ever considered having jordan peterson on the podcast what are your thoughts on this carnivore diet i'll save my thoughts on this carnivore diet but i will say that i have uh considered having jordan on the podcast we have many mutual friends and i think you'd be fascinating uh so that that is certainly something that's perhaps at some point i'll chat with him about stacey phillips if you could go back and add one question to your list of questions that you asked since writing tools of titans of tribamentals what would it be and why it would be what are your commandments what are your rules for saying yes or no to things and what language do you use when you say no i think that would be the

Interviewing Techniques And Perspectives

A new question I would add to my interviews (01:09:10)

question and i may have a lot more on that soon uh let's go back to live questions all right ryan combs an interview with jocko will inc the infamous and magnifson jocko you said you initially wanted complete freedom but realized that was too stressful and really wanted positive constraints instead could you elaborate yes uh the paradox of choice uh as written about by berry schwartz and others is a real issue and there are many things of which you would hope to be ignorant or to at least have on autopilot this is for example why i will batch order a lot of the daily

Positive constraints (01:09:55)

necessities toilet paper paper towels if i know i'm going to need more dog food i don't need to order one bag at a time i can order several bags assuming they don't expire and the same holds true with different types of tea and so on and so forth so really uh one of the guiding questions that i have is where can i make single single decisions that eliminate a hundred decisions or a thousand decisions one example would be effectively retiring from startup investing in 2015 or 2016 and this requires an awareness of where you can apply moderation in your life and where you cannot for instance for some people if they drink one glass wine they're going to drink four i happen to generally fall on that camp so if i don't want to drink wine rather than rely on this illusion of self-control that i have and this complete illusion of moderation that i can apply i will go no booze i'm not drinking alcohol for a period of time and that makes life much easier uh ditto with the retirement and very public announcement related to uh startup investing these are constraints and uh what you find is that you can apply at least in my case this is true creativity much more effectively when you have constraints if you can do anything uh the decision tree is just too broad there are too many branches and it's i think very difficult at least for me to uh coerce that into some semblance of order and you might think that creativity and order are at odds i would not agree with that instead if you said all right you are going to write for the next 10 minutes even though you're not having way imitating the writing style of having way very short declarative senses etc or you can write for the next 10 minutes and for those 10 minutes you can't use the word interesting you can't use the word abcd and you apply this this reductive approach it's uh very effective for making you highly self-aware of choices that you currently make subconsciously slash automatically uh so there are many different ways to apply constraints steve jobs wearing the effectively the same uniform every day for instance or many days of a given week would be an example of a constraint or a constant that is set so that his creative decision-making brain power can be applied in places where it actually matters right those are a few thoughts on that adam bucci and referenced your latest weights get interview with the miku that's most important question gap analysis how do you go about trusting the unconscious or subconscious release to bring insight uh you test it simple as that you try it you try it you try it give it a fair shot give yourself a week two weeks i would say minimum and look at the results and you can assess in what circumstances in what type of days over what types of period have i found to be helpful which

Trusting the subconscious. (01:13:08)

questions have been most effective uh the most important question for those people who are lacking the context is a question that you might ask yourself right after the end of a workday before dinner which you then put in a journal or an evernote file which is what josh weight skin does then you let it go completely for the rest of the day you don't do it right before bed at least he doesn't and then the following morning you wake up first thing you do pre-input is sit down and journal any answer to that question stream of consciousness whatever comes up as an answer to that question you write down and i did learn also after we had that interaction on stage a workaround uh which came from one of his clients and he said our that the the workaround if you can't figure out what your most important question should be is to ask what is the most important question so it's it's a bit recursive but if you don't know what your most important question should be your question can be in other words your mik is what should the what what is the most important question chris crocker this is

more common that's supposed to be cool to have q&a on a specific subject you want to talk about uh to i suppose hone in focus for example investing and then everyone gathers their investment question i like that idea stacey phillips i think molly is his dog yes molly is my dog do not have my girlfriend drinking out of a bowl on the uh on the bricks by the fireplace although that could be hot too i don't know i haven't tried it uh okay uh raul bohara i'm very impatient when i'm doing a task i meditate regularly however how can i build patients apart from meditation thanks uh first thing that comes to mind is decrease your caffeine intake this is incredibly true for me i can meditate three times a day or i can just cut my caffeine intake in half and the result is more or less the same so i would say decrease the amount of stimulants you consume if that uh resonates with you at all and i would also read books that talk about becoming the observer of your own emotional states and agitation my current favorite book for that which is very short and very easy to read is awareness by anthony de mellow de space me l l o awareness by anthony de mellow i've read it i would say at least three times at this point and i plan on reading it many many more times uh with with great frequency it's it's that good and it doesn't resonate won't strike a chord with everyone but for many people if it finds you at the same time it can be uh quite incredible and i read it initially when peter malook on this podcast who is a wealth manager an investment manager mentioned in passing that this book generally gave him two weeks of peace and i'm paraphrasing here but put him at ease and gave him two weeks of peace each time he read it which was uh a very curious and unusual endorsement and i found that also to be the case uh i'll let you determine why that is what mechanism through which it has that effect but uh that is another book i have found to help me uh tremendously with patience the work which is a series of questions predominantly four questions by by rincady would also fall into that category and her worksheets are very valuable i would not hesitate to buy a packet of the various one-pagers and work sheets that she uses it may be helpful to take a training or a weekend course with her one of her trainings just because it can bring up a lot of resistance and i thought it was ridiculous when i first encountered it i've and i i had a lot of pushback uh internally and a lot of frustration in patience towards the exercises themselves later found them to be exceptionally valuable and that would be another tool in the toolkit perhaps all right let's see bear with me i'll find another question here how did i meet jerry kalona that is a great question i don't recall exactly how i met jerry who was the is the coach with the spider tattoo that is literally the truth and also the name of the episode he is a coach and advisor sort of the like Buddhist brooklynite uh in the wings available as a conciliary to many CEOs in silicon valley and elsewhere uh including investors i want to say that jerry was introduced to me by one of my favorite investors and an incredibly good investor named brad felt uh i believe that is true but i could be off what insights did i take away from my interview with him this is from wane basinger i would say that there are there are many insights uh and many notes from that conversation that i've kept the most important of which is probably the question that he poses to almost all of his clients and himself which is how am i complicit in creating the conditions i say i don't want and the wording is very important and i believe i'm getting it right here you could listen to that podcast or look at the show notes for the exact phrasing but how am i complicit in creating the conditions that i say i don't want that is a fantastic question and that is the type of question if you really take the time to think about it and journal on it that could change your life uh and uh it's a question he introduced me to several years ago when i was in a very difficult place and i found it tremendously insightful also painful in in the sense that you are looking in the mirror and taking a long hard look at how you are self sabotaging doing things that are perhaps destructive or at the very best slowing you down or preventing you from fully being who you should be or showing up as the person you should be in the world for yourself or your family for your friends for customers for employees whatever might be uh so so that question i would say is my main takeaway from the conversation and i will jump from that to another question uh do you plan on interviewing carly claus i've actually already interviewed carly claus so you can find that interview uh on tim dot blog forward slash podcast you can search the name klos or on the youtube channel so

Interviewing Karlie Kloss? (01:20:09)

youtube.com forward slash tim ferris to ours to s's uh at guard o santana santiago that's a hell of a name i love it how do you balance growth and learning with mental rest in order to avoid overwhelm as you pursue personal growth mental rest is something i prioritize and uh today's a very good example of that i i woke up reasonably early initially today seven thirty or so and i went back to sleep i woke up again at nine thirty and i could tell that i was not properly rested and in the past i may have

Balancing abundance & mental rest (01:20:48)

pushed through that and would very often end up getting some type of cold or fluous result and i stayed in bed uh and ended up having a shorter than normal day today prior to recording a podcast earlier today and then doing this and that tells you a bit about my week i also reserve Mondays typically and to a lesser extent fridays for phone calls video etc this type of interaction but mental rest i've you just like physical rest if you are really pushing yourself cognitively it's just like pushing yourself physically in the weight room or with marathon training there is a physical limit to what you can sustain and there are uh recovery periods that you need to build into your lives that you can repair and regenerate i mean there are physical limiters meaning say bio uh neurotransmitter production and so on uh that uh you can you can absolutely deplete if you're all go go go and no rest uh so how do i do it uh number one is listening to my body whenever possible and uh really paying attention to how i feel and realizing also that i'm just not that important so guess what i if i'm really tired an id and extra hour of sleep uh i'm not the leader of the free world uh the the the global economy is not going to come to a halt you know millions of orphans aren't going to get thrown out of windows if i get an extra hour of sleep uh i like to think that what i put out in the world is a contribution of some type but at the end of the day we're all going back to dust to like Marcus Aurelia said and i try not to take myself too seriously uh there there's a lot that i can do when properly restored and rejuvenated so i try to get the extra hour of sleep it's not going to uh have and a disproportionate negative impact on my life and certainly looking back a year from now five years from now i'll probably say i wish i'd gotten the extra hour of sleep so i i try to keep that in perspective as well uh andra regan what advice would you put on a billboard you're the average of the five people you associate with most so pay a lot of attention to who you select to spend time with alchen i'm heading to austin a few weeks for my bachelor party any recommendations well depends on the size of the party i would say you can always go to dirty sixth which is a complete mess and just create chaos uh if you're like for a good restaurant one of many daidué would be high on the list south congress is always fun you can go to south congress and hit restaurants like purlas uh or joanne's fine foods uh there are also a lot of bachelor parties that happen to find their way to austin so who knows maybe your entire gang will bump into one of those and then all sorts of trouble can ensue have fun in austin uh let's see what does my cooking look like these days uh i am currently on writing deadline so i'm not doing a whole lot of cooking uh but i still cook a lot of what is in the for our chef and the basic techniques if we're looking at say braising steaming uh the the the portfolio of techniques that i rely on and the staples that i rely on very much correspond to what's in the domestic section of the four hour chef um very easy minimal cleanup uh almost everything can end up being used well as leftovers for at least two days uh that's my answer. Roberta musa if you could ask Richard Feynman any question what would it be uh what separates a great teacher from a good teacher is the first question that comes to mind he was an exceptional teacher he was very good at describing complex concepts or phenomena in simple terms and uh that is the first question that i would ask him uh tharen barber you have helped a few of your guests start their own podcasts in most cases they've started themselves but petera tia and cal fussman and uh jocko and so on uh they would have succeeded no matter what in my opinion but i've like guess who else does not have a podcast who you feel would do it well pretty much anyone who has been on this podcast and speaks well and asks good questions without too many verbal texts should have a podcast and limit it to an initial season and a commitment of say ten episodes and uh as a practice i think it's true it's it's tremendously valuable for refining your thinking improving your ability to ask questions and listen and removing verbal texts which removes mental texts they do correspond.

Self-Reflection And Personal Advice

Guests who might benefit from hosting a podcast (01:25:48)

Justin Osborne has another recommendation for Austin in Austin it's very kind of you to offer the bachelor party uh an answer here go to the food hall at somewhere around second in congress all right david to us dacey phillips that is the correct answer for ofer awesome if you guys want uh a good laugh tremendous boxer perhaps not the best wheel of fortune competitor of all time but one hell of a fighter david to a tua ofer awesome look it up uh robbie wade what is the truth that few would agree with you on shame is a powerful and effective motivator that we should make better use of i think shame gets a bad name and that in fact if you look at for instance the steaks sta key kes section of setting up behavioral change in the four hour chef when i talk about and this is this is true in the four hour body as well for instance if you want to improve your physical condition uh your composition you can take a photograph of yourself or have a friend merciless friend take photographs of yourself and your tidy whiteies and very unflattering light after a bender and they get those handful of

photos and if you don't achieve a reasonable goal within a time frame that you both have agreed upon they get to share those photos with your friends uh for instance uh might be frowned upon because the positive psychology folks out there might say you should use you should use positive feedback the carrot and not the stick and i quite simply disagree i think that you can use positive incentives yes absolutely but that someone will work infinitely harder to prevent losing a hundred dollars than they will to make a hundred dollars they don't have and this is true in betting circles if you look at anything like stick sti c k calm which can be used for behavioral change if you look at spar which is an app that is somewhat similar uh you look at beminder these are very good at using social accountability and other elements to ensure or help ensure that you do what it is you say you want to do the creation of incentives and i think that uh that shame is very powerful it doesn't mean that you have to be an asshole about it to yourself or other people but sort of a fear of social uh ridicule uh i think is a hell of a thing and it keeps us also behaving and not letting our lesser selves do awful things in society as a side note uh so that might be a truth or something i take to be as true that many would uh disagree with another stacey are you still fluent in all the languages you've learned no definitely not uh but i i do have different ways of resurrecting those languages if i have plans to go to such country went to mexico not long ago and so i went through the process that i outlined in a blog post that i believe

Proficiency in foreign languages (01:29:26)

is titled how to resurrect your high school spanish or something along those lines uh so i i do believe still believe uh more than ever that it is possible to become functionally conversationally fluent in nearly any language in eight to twelve weeks if you make it your full-time job and have proper systems in place functionally fluent really means that you have identified the highest frequency words and focus on say the first two thousand highest frequency words and idiomatic expressions uh that fill gaps not covered by those words and it is entirely possible to do i won't beat a dead horse and go into it deeply here but if you want to explore how i think about language learning the far chef has a lot on this in the meta learning section in the first uh portion of the book but you can also go to tim dot blog and other topics find language learning where there are a number of articles that i have written and then a number of articles that uh polyglots people who speak five to ten languages have written uh that lay out step by step exactly how they approach and have taught others to approach learning multiple languages uh which you can you can also do in increasingly shorter periods of time if you approach them uh from the perspective of language families um but i won't get into the nitty gritty details of that because we'll be here all night all right we're at an hour and a half i am going to try to take a few more and then probably call this to a close raul do i drink coffee these days i do drink coffee and i try to limit it not always successfully uh to before lunch otherwise it can interview with sleep even if i feel very tired and i don't subjectively believe i'm experiencing the effects of caffeine the half life is pretty long uh so before noon all right yeah it's pretty wild i'm looking at some of the comments here and and there are a number of people are saying yes i did enjoy the ads and fuck i'll take it means i was doing my job with the ads so uh we we shall see where all this goes all right let me try to find some more questions sorry guys there are a lot of comments so what i'm doing right now is filtering the questions from the

Nonfiction (01:32:01)

comments what's on my current reading list i just finished a book called i believe uh trickster makes this world or trickster made this world which is a book about trickster mythology by luis hide uh i have been revisiting a book called the art of possibility by benjamin and rosa moon zander za and d er which is recommended to me by seth godden long ago i've read that uh at least twice gone through my notes uh more than that but i have my reading list is a stack of about a thousand pages that uh i have compiled for research related to the new book that i am currently working on uh so really what i should be saying is i have a lot on my to right list and fewer and fewer things on my to read list because there's a point where you have to stop reading and start writing uh current morning routine what does my current morning routine current morning routine somewhat variable right now because i'm traveling in the uh middle of book deadline wake up meditate for 20 minutes tm there's very specific room for this uh then i will jump

Morning routine (01:33:06)

out of that room jump into the pool do 10 to 15 short laps just as a way to wake up and get some sun exposure i will most likely then already have printed out the night before 10 to 15 pages of writing to edit to review so i will have put that together the night before or received it from contributors the night before i will then go into a barrel sauna and i'll have a clipboard and a towel so that i don't get sweat all over the paper and i will edit in the sauna for something like 20 to 25 minutes hop out take a quick cold shower that's when i have my first bite to eat at that point then very likely make poo air tea with a dash of green tea and sit down to do some type of writing or get a status update from my researcher who will be helping me with this book as he's helping with the last two books in terms of gathering various bits and pieces that i need or fact checking aspects of writing that i've done that i've done before so it's a bit of a standing meeting check-in like a daily status what has happened since we went to bed what will happen today and then assigning marching orders as needed to that assistant i have a treadmill desk where i very often then stand and work for the next three to four hours then i get on a bicycle and bike about a mile and a half to lunch where i have the exact same wrap every day along with uh cold iced tea and sand pellegrino sparkling water and work there continue to work uh at the lunch spot outside because they have Wi-Fi up four period of two to three hours until the bugs become too much to bear jump on the bike head back continue to work for a few hours dinner out which is a working dinner come back potentially sauna or cold bath or dip in the pool bed that is what the whole daily routine looks like and it will look as much like groundhog day as humanly possible which i and many other people like Neil Gaiman have found important for getting any type of work projects done czar or czrd texas life compared to callee it's hard to say texas life austin life uh much friendlier it's just a warmer

Advice to current self (01:35:51)

place uh emotionally to live then san francisco all right bear with me one sec advice to your 23 year old you've given advice to your 23 year old self this is from sarah topson what about advice your 42 year old self if he were restarting from zero it actually be the same advice and i might grab the uh might grab the billboard answer as well so number one principle to pay attention to you're the average of the five people you associate with most physically financially emotionally etc so if you want to improve in one of those areas find people who help average you up and then on top of that choosing projects based on skill development and relationship development with people who are exceptionally good at what they do and meditation first thing in the morning those would be three staples that i would tell myself at 23 24 and all the way up to current age as reminders and do not forget to exercise and by exercise i should i should refine that and say move move every day get some physical movement in preferably in the morning a la rick roobin with sun exposure within the first say hour of getting up that makes a huge difference in my perceived quality of each day and it's such a small thing easy to lose sight of the small things many of which are actually the big things all right my friends thank you so much again for being supporters of the podcast and everything that i am hoping to do and in fact doing in the world i will have updates for you guys on many of those soon i have some very big announcements coming so please keep an eye out for some some big news in the next month or two and i really appreciate all of you tuning in whether you're catching this live right now as many of you are or if you're watching or listening to this q&a after the fact i know you have finite time in your life and finite attention and i always try to give back more value than i consume in attention so sometimes i succeed sometimes i fail but please believe that i am always doing my best and i really appreciate you guys hey guys this is tim again just a few more things before you take off number one this is five bullet friday do you want

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Five-Bullet Friday (01:38:32)

to get a short email from me would you enjoy getting a short email from me every friday that provides a little more soul of fun before the weekend and five bullet friday is a very short email where i share the coolest things i've found or that i've been pondering over the week that could include favorite new albums that i've discovered could include gizmos and gadgets and all sorts of weird shit that i've somehow dug up in the world of the esoteric as i do it could include favorite articles that i've read and that i've shared with my close friends for instance and it's very short it's just a little tiny bite of goodness before you head off for the weekend so if you want to receive that check it out just go to four hour workweek.com that's four hour workweek.com all is spelled out and just drop in your email and you will get the very next one and if you sign up i hope you enjoy it this episode is brought to you by linked in marketing solutions the go-to tool for b2b marketers and advertisers who want to drive brand awareness generate leads or build long-term relationships that result in real business impact could

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Peloton (01:41:22)

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