David Goggins on How He Became Unstoppable and Doing the Unthinkable | Impact Theory | Transcription

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Intro (00:00)

My mom is this way, my stepdad got murdered, my dad beat the shit out of me. I can't read and write to say my fucking soul. I've lied about it to everybody. I've cheated on all these tests. And then you put a goal in your mind. How are you going to feel when you accomplish this goal coming from that shit? Coming from the fucking hell you came from. This might be exactly what I need. The darkness is exactly what I need, it's how you look at your situation. What am I going to do today to change what I see in this mirror? Today's guest is widely considered to be the toughest man on the planet and one of the greatest endurance athletes of all time. But if you're tempted to dismiss him as the product of amazing genetics, great parenting or even performance enhancing drugs, think again. You know me son, get it. You know me son. If you're not real and raw with who the fuck you are, nothing's going to change. And that's why I talk about the warrior mentality. And that's why so many people are lost. I chose this world to be a warrior. And I would choose it again if I came back to this world. You must be that person on that door. Get ready to open it, think into yourself. If I die, so be it. Are you accountable for what you're doing? Are you accountable? And I mean to the T for what you're saying. I am. And that's where it started. It started with that total, total accountability of that's not lie today. I'm even shaking right now, beat on this show. I'm a big time introvert. How you address it is you face it. This is a race that you run completely alone. I said to myself, no I'm a dumb mother fucker. Okay, Roger that. How you get smarter, educate yourself. Buy this book. I read it. It is extraordinary. It is one of the most amazing manuals for how to change your life ever. And the very best may not be I'm number one. The very best is did I leave everything inside of me out there. That's the goal in life. To put your life on a billboard, on the busiest road in the busiest highway in the world. And say, this is how fucked up I used to be. Take it over me. Who's one more to carry? The boats. Help me and welcome you. The man who once ran an ultra marathon with pneumonia. The king of no excuses. I'm David fucking Goggins. That's who I am. We have the ability to go in such a space. If you're willing to suffer.

Self-Awareness And Personal Development

The Crazy Motivation Story (03:16)

And I mean suffer. Your brain and your body once connected together can do anything. And this 30 miles was the life changing moment. I was out of it. I was in the worst pain in my entire life. I was to me on the brink of death. And I was able to chunk this 30 day miles into small pieces. I was so driven. And I'm not going to say motivated because motivation is crap. Motivation comes and goes. When you're driven, whatever is in front of you will get destroyed. So I sat in this chair and I was so driven to succeed in this race. And at this time, everybody was rethinking about the guys that died. And I'm not going to lie to you. I wasn't. This became a personal thing. This became me against this race. Me against the kids that called me nigger me against me. It just became something that I took so violently personal. And I broke this thing down into small pieces. I said, okay, I got to get nutrition. I got to be able to stand up before I can get off this curb and get off this chair and be able to go 30 miles. So I went through all these small steps and I was able to stand up. And then from staying up, I was literally walking around with my wife at the time. And she goes, you're not going to make the time. She goes, you're walking like 30, some minute miles. I got to my 81. And the second she said that I'm not going to make the time. I ran the last 19 miles nonstop. And I can show you right now when we get done with this. Matter of fact, I'm going to show you right now. This was years ago and I had to put compression tape on my ankle. And I had, so this was years ago, I had literally the size of half dollars. I had to get compression tape and I taped up my ankles and I taped up my feet. And that's how I got through that race. It was like a hematoma? I mean, what do we have? No, see what happened was like my shins hurt so bad from having stretch fractures. That the only way I could continue on was I taped it so I wasn't doing the flexure motion that activates your shins. So I taped my ankles and my shins up and I got that from, because in my third Hell Week, they were going to go back through your training anymore. So I literally went through all the buds, my last seal training with stretch fracture and shins plants. And so I did it was I would tape my ankles all the way up to my calf every morning. So for the first hour, the pain was excruciating. But what happened is my feet would go numb. And I did that every single day for six months. Whoa! And that's how I got through my third Hell Week because I was so broken from the first two that the commander said, "Hey, the CEO said this your last time we're sending you through." So that's how I got the idea to do that. So with the right, and people may listen to this and say, "This guy is sadistic. He's crazy." No, if you know how I came up, you realize I was just a scared kid that found drive and passion to be something much better than what he thought he was. And that's why I talk about the warrior mentality. And that's why so many people are lost when I start talking. You have the right, you're lucky that you don't have to think like warriors think. You're very privileged. I chose this world to be a warrior. And I would choose it again if I came back to this world. But the mentality of a warrior is very different than normal mentality. You must be that person on that door, get ready to open it, think into yourself. If I die, so be it. The only way you can go in that door is knowing there's a great chance you're going to die. Like being a seal, you train with live ammo. You jump out of the airplane, everything you do, you could die. So to be a warrior, why people don't understand me, I'm glad you don't understand me. Merry Christmas, good onion. Because being a warrior takes a whole different mindset. A whole different mindset to know that there's a great chance I may not be in the Lord. Like I was in for 21 years. I'm lucky. I'm very lucky that I'm alive, able to talk to you, able to still run. But when you sign up on that dial line to be a seal, your mentality changes. I may not live. You got to accept that. And that's the mentality you have. Look at yourself, man. Look at yourself. And it was that day, in a couple of other days after that, I just got real up myself.

Being accountable to self and really doing the hard work *extended* (08:06)

And every day I came home, I called the accountability mirror. What am I going to do today to change what I see in this mirror? What am I going to do today? And a lot of it was, I stopped sitting with the cool guys. I actually took my shirt in and went to school looking like, "Hey man, this time I'm going to look." If you don't like it, so be it. I had to really wear this layer of skin. I had to develop a really callous skin on me to take whatever you're going to call me. You're going to call me. Whatever I'm going to be, I want to geek. But whoever I am, you're going to see me. You're going to see me for who I am because I need to change who I'm not. And that accountability mirror just became raw. And when I became fat over the years, I fell back in the hole. I called myself fat because I was fat. And people don't want to do that. They want to say, "Oh, don't call yourself fat. Don't call yourself dumb." If you're not real and raw with who the fuck you are, nothing's going to change. And in this nice new world that we live in, we want to hear, "You're just a little big." "No, man. You might be fat." And it's okay to hear that from yourself, in from Maribello. So that's where it started at. And it's raw. It gets ugly sometimes in me in that mirror. But I'm also proud of myself to be able to tell myself that and then fix what's in that mirror. That's what hits me. And that's what I really want people to hear is that you can say those things, A, because they're true, and B, because you can fix them. And your whole life has been about addressing those things.

Habits, the power of a morning routine and how water can change your life *extended* (09:38)

So walk us through how in the book do you help people start addressing it? Because that's what I think is so powerful about your book. So the first thing about it is once you realize it, you have to realize it. I call yourself out. Addressing it is very small. It doesn't go from like one morning this way, next month I wake up and presto, you know, five steps to greatness. No. It ain't that, brother. You read my book, "This is Hard Work." It's every day like right now. I had to be honest with you, man. I'm even shaking right now, being on this show. I'm a big time introvert. How you address it is you face it. You face it every day. You face it every single day of your life where you say, okay, like if you're fat and you need to lose weight, it's patience. It's patience in this fact of accepting who you are right now. I'm fat. I don't like myself. Except in the fact that if you lose three or four pounds, that's a huge accomplishment. You have to live in your own fucking world. You cannot judge yourself. That's why social media and all these things are horrible. You can't judge yourself off of the so-called competition that we have made up in our mind. The things that, how people look, how people lack, how smart someone is. This is a race that you run completely alone. And you're all by yourself. I had tons of sticky notes all over my mirror. It wasn't like, be better than John or be as fast as whoever. Okay, David, yesterday you did this. Today, our next goal for the week is this. So I had a year goal, weekly goals, daily goals, hourly goals. And the big goal was I lied a lot growing up. I wanted to be accepted. One goal was let's go one day without lying. Let's go one day, and then when I would lie to somebody, I would say, "Hey man, now I have to go back now and apologize to that man. I lied to you." You know how hard it is to go back to somebody and say, "I lied to you." "Hey man, you know what? Back there, I lied to you dude." That was really jacked up. But I figured out these ways of total, total accountability. Like right now, I had to run this morning before I talked to you because why? That's from about, I'm about mind, mind, body, fitness. A lot of folks talk so much shit about, "Hey, I'm going to change your life. I'm going to do something to do that." Are you accountable for what you're doing? Are you accountable? And I mean to the T for what you're saying. I am, and that's where it started. It started with that total, total accountability of, "Let's not lie today. Let's tell people the truth about who you are." And when you can get on and tell someone like I'm doing right now exactly how fucked up you are, that's the goal in life. To put your life on a billboard, on the busiest road in the busiest highway in the world and say, "This is how fucked up I used to be. Take it or leave it." This thing that is wrong with you has to be a focal point. You can't look at this gigantic list and say, "I got to change all this shit. My God, this is crazy." No, you take off the first one. I want to be smarter. For me, that was my thing. I have to become more intelligent. I have such a severe learning disability, and I can't retain shit. I had to now get that one thing and then strategize in that one problem. How can I do this? I'm not going to learn like you. I'm not going to learn like anybody else. How am I going to figure this out?" I then figured out, "Okay, where are my strengths here? Where are my weaknesses in learning?" All right, man. How am I going to do this? I figured out a way to do it by just strategizing. How I learn to this day, if I have a big manual to study, I will have to get a bunch of spiral notebooks from the Dagon store and each page, I have to write each page out, maybe 10 times. There was a thousand page dive manual that I got 18 months before I went to dive school. Most people, I'm not smart. I'm going to go and see if I can pass this test. I realized, hang on a second. I'm not smart. How can I get past this? How can I get through this obstacle? I need to acquire this book 18 months in advance because it could take me 18 months to write down each page over and over again to then put it to memory. When the question came up, I had written that question so many times down on paper that I could recall, "Page 71 was where I remember seeing this and I could recall it that way." That's how I did it.

Strategize (14:30)

You got to strategize on each problem you have in life. Slowly break down that problem. Don't think about all the problems you have just one at a time. Before you know it, you fix all these problems but you cannot focus on all of them just on the one thing at a time. A lot of us, mediocrities everywhere right now and we're also going to find an easy way out and we're judging ourselves. Let's say there's 10 people in this room and we're all mediocre but I'm the best of the mediocre people. I now think I'm great. I'm great. We surround ourselves around people that make us feel great. Tell us what we want to hear. The second we put ourselves amongst the uncommon people, we don't like that feeling. That challenge and feeling of that person's breaking up at 330 in the morning saying, "Hey, push your shit off. We're going for a run." We don't like that challenge. We like that person who says, "Hey, I don't feel good today, man." They say, "Oh, it's okay, brother. Take a day off. Maybe we get a pizza and shit. We'll watch the game." We like that. We love that feeling. Why? Because you understand, man, we're good, bro. We don't want that motherfuckers like this. "Hey, man, no, bro. Get your fucking shit on, man. Stop being a punk." We don't want that person to constantly challenge in our weaknesses. We want that person to constantly make us feel nice and good and secure and earth. That's the mediocrity of life. We want to be the best amongst the average people. People wonder, "How do you stay hungry all the time?" Because after I accomplish something, I don't want to sit back like a lot of guys who graduate buds, who graduate this, graduate that, they get comfortable. They wonder why I'm getting weak, man. I don't know. I lost my edge. What's going on? Because once you hit the top of the fucking mountain, guess what happened? I'm good. I'm good. So you wonder why you're falling down now. Because once you reach the top of the mountain, you got to build a fucking other one. That's mediocrity. There's a lot of people in mediocrity who have a nice resume. But they're one timers, man. They hit a one-time deal. They busted it open. Got a lot of money. But they're good. You're a mediocre now, man. What are you fucking doing today tomorrow, the next fucking day? That's why I'm listening to theorists. I don't listen to all that bullshit. I'm listening to a motherfucker who's like this, man. What's wrong, man? I'm fucking tired, dude. I'm very tired because tomorrow I got to do the fucking shit again, man. Whatever the shit is that made me fucking nauseous and sick to my stomach. It made me hurt. There's no ending. And that's the person I listen to. That's the person who's gained knowledge. You gain knowledge through suffering. And on the other end of suffering is a world that very few, very few have ever seen. It's a beautiful world because that's where you find yourself. You don't find yourself in over here. You find yourself on the other end, like the 100 mile race I was on, I ran it for 24 hours. I found myself on the other end of that fucking race. That 19 hours I found, wow, there's a whole other fucking world out here that I've never even stopped. But the world's in your mind. And that's what all that mediocrity is about. It's contagious. Everything I did was for someone else to like me. It wasn't until I started reading my own book about how pathetic I was as human being. I could blame my dad. I could blame kids at school. I could blame having health issues, ADD. My mom not being around. Great mom, but she was doing her thing. I could blame a lot of people. And that's the book I was reading. And I put it off on everybody else. It wasn't until I said, you know what? For me to fix this, I get to read what the hell, what the fuck is wrong with David Goggins?

Going In (18:19)

And I blame anybody. Read my book. It's okay. I'm afraid of my shadow. How can I overcome that? Go in the military. Get your ass kicked. Do things you hate to do. Be uncomfortable every fucking day of your life. Roger that. I'm not the smartest kid in the world. Okay. It says, somebody's saying, oh no, you're smart. No, no, no, don't say that to yourself. I said to myself, no, I'm a dumb motherfucker. Okay. Roger that. How you get smarter. Educate yourself. So the things that we run from, we run from the truth. We're running from the truth, man. So the only way I became successful was going towards the truth. As painful and as brutal as it is, it changed me. It allowed me to become in my own right who I am today. I hated jumping out of airplanes. I hated shooting guns. I hated the job as a Navy SEAL. But I did it because I wanted to change myself. Everything I do, I'm not really comfortable doing. But if you choose to go that route to go be a Navy SEAL, you might as well go be the hardest motherfucker in the world. Because if you're choosing to do something, you have two routes. You can go there and be a little, a little weak person and get through barely and that's your reputation or you can go through the hardest guy you can possibly be in that's your reputation. So my whole thing is if you're going to choose to open that fucking door in Iraq or Afghanistan, open the motherfucker and go in hard. Because they're going to remember you by slowly opening it and peeking in. So if you're going to open it and you made the mind open it, don't crack it open. Open the fucking door and go in. That's with life. If you're choosing to do something, attack it. Because they're going to remember you as not attacking it. So I want to be remembered. You can hate me. But one thing you can't say about me, I didn't attack it. And the very best may not be I'm number one. The very best is did I leave everything inside of me out there. So attacking is not like, oh, I want to win this or win that or be the best. The best is I'm running against myself and everything I do. And that's what I attack myself. I'm always questioning myself. I'm always holding myself accountable.

The accountability mirror (20:49)

Talk to me about the accountability mirror. So the accountability mirror is something that I kind of came up with in high school. Like I said, I started shaving my head when I was 16. And I got caught up in trying to impress so many people because no one liked me. So I developed so many different identities. Let me sag my pants. You know, let me, okay, let me pull my pants up. Let me talk this way or act this way or be this way or whatever the hell it may be. God, dawg, so many different things I did to try to fit in with so many different groups. That when you look in the mirror, that's the one person you can't lie to. So every morning I would shave my head thanking God. I reflect back on some of the lies I may have told somebody or some of the ways I acted that I didn't feel comfortable doing and I did it to impress other normal people. The key where there is normal, everyday people, I was trying to make other people like me. How pathetic is that? So I, this mirror would always tell me like my reflection would say, God, you are a pathetic man. How does I feel everyday to be this way? So I would just start having myself accountable. How did I attack today? How did I attack yesterday? If I didn't do something I was proud of, I would write down this sticky note and I would fix it. So then my senior year in high school, it was a totally different day with God. Can you give an example of something that you wrote down and fixed? All right, there was a lunch table that I wanted to sit the cool guy, lunch table, man. You know, everybody was calling me a nigga all the time. I wanted to try to act like somebody I wasn't so I could fit in. And I sold my soul to the devil, you know, trying to act like, no, I'm David fucking God. That's who I am. And so I wrote down on a piece of paper, fuck the table, sit by your fucking self. And that's what I did. And guess what happened? My table became a table people started sitting at because a whole bunch of people in that lunch room, I felt exactly like I did. Some people have been bullied. Some people are distressed. Some people are insecure. Some people are fat and overweight. And the world puts a lot of this shit in your mind. If not just you, yeah, you help it. And my whole thing is about I had to develop a mindset, a mindset that was indestructible. I had to armor plate my mind. And it's about what you're saying to yourself, but it also comes at work. So whenever I was getting beat down physically, mentally, spiritually, whenever I was going through just saying, you know, I would put, you know, you can't hurt me. Can't hurt me. Just became a message. I would say to myself. And that's just kind of where it comes from. What I find so interesting is your concept of the governor that basically I have the chills that an expert is somebody who's going to tell you what your limits are rather than the person that's out there practicing getting you beyond the limit. So what is the governor and how do we strip it out of our lives? I believe that most human beings are only living at about 40% of their capability. So the mind has a governor like a car. If you're driving a car and the car has a governor on it, the car may say 130 miles an hour, but the governor is set for 91. Once that governor sets in, you get the 91 that car starts doing this. The car wants to go. The car wants to go, but that fucking factory said, uh-uh, we're not going past 91. We have a factory, a nice governor in our brain. And it's a survival mechanism. It protects us from pain and suffering. The second we feel that shit, our mind says, oh, no, this isn't fun. We should back off. We should sit down, find something more comfortable. And there's something about the mind. The mind has the tactical advantage over you at all times. At all times of your life, the mind has a tactical advantage over you. Why is that? It knows what you're afraid of. It knows your insecurities. It knows your deep, dark lies. And it starts to push you away from that shit. It pushes you in a direction that is comfortable. The mind controls everything. So what I realized was that when I was growing up and I was 300 pounds and I got off fat and I got all insecure, I realized that my mind kept taking me in this direction when things got uncomfortable for me. When I was facing my insecurities, I was facing my fears, my mind said, oh no, we had the tactical advantage. We just get you, separate you from this feeling, this feeling of your life. It's all about feelings. We want the happy feeling. We don't want that feeling of this sucks. Why am I here? And you don't have any, so you can't answer those questions, so you leave. I started realizing that if in that moment you can answer those fucked up questions and you are now in charge of your brain versus your brain ruling you, that's where all that stuff comes from. So the 40% rule is all of that. You get the 40%, your brain says, we're done. That's wrong, man. This is starting to get painful. This is uncomfortable. So you sit down. You have to figure out ways and everybody's different. That's how the book kind of talks about, like we all have these things about five steps to this and four steps to this. It's a lot more than that.

The 40% rule (26:11)

That's all bullshit. It's a practice that you have to, it's a habit. So if you know that at 40%, I'm feeling pain, at 40%, I'm feeling pain. That's where the 40% rule kicks in. Now it starts. Okay, I'm feeling pain. My mind's saying all this shit to me is saying, get out of here, run, flee. The fight or flight kicks in. Okay, we're done. We're not good enough. It starts telling you all these things. You start to believe it because the mind controls all. This is the time where you have to gain control back of your mind. It's okay. Let me see if I can go 45%. And once you start giving yourself more and more hope and start realizing, okay, the mind starts to be, okay, what are you doing? We're supposed to be going right and you're going left. You start then controlling your mind, start finding more in yourself and then it goes from 40% to a lot further than that. But that's the start of it though. Get to the spot where your mind is saying stop. Whatever that is, you got to get there first and then that's when that shit starts to work for you. You got to control yourself in that moment. That's my happiness is my reflection on the suffering of my journey knowing I never quit nor was I guided by anybody on this earth. I was guided by something more powerful and I listened and I chose the path of most resistance, talent not required. I love that. You said that you lived a life of a monk. What does that mean? What does that look like? Why do you do that?

The David Goggins Philosophy (27:46)

So I stretch out every day for these two hours. I don't drink. I don't go out. My regimen is I wake up, have oatmeal run, come back, hit the weights. I'm a big sports guy. I don't leave the house at all but do stuff like this. And I stress out at nighttime. I find people that I trust, which is a very small group of people, people who are honest and true to me, people who will die for me and I'll die for them which is a fucking small. And everybody else, man, do you. And I say to myself, and I let you do you. I don't judge people. I don't criticize you. You want to be a douchebag and be an ass and not love this country. Do you ever want to do? I don't care, man. I fought for this country for you to do you and I am all about you doing you because I'm going to fucking do me. And I'm going to do me until I'm fucking dead. And I believe I earned the right. A lot of people haven't earned the right. It's because you live in this country. I mean, you earned the right. You got to live a little bit. Live. And then have something to say or shut the fuck up. I'm okay with going on this easy highway over here. The easy highway has all these fucking signs and shit, directions how to get somewhere. And you have to first be uncomfortable with how you feel about yourself. With that voice that allows us to run away from, we all have it. We all have that voice that say, "Hey, man, you're kind of whimpering out right now. You're kind of being a little punk right now." But I would say, "Okay, that's okay. It's okay to tell you these little white lives to ourselves." So we first have to face the real you. The real me is David Goggins. The real me is a guy looking at you right now saying, "I don't want to fucking be on this show right now because I used to stutter as a kid." And I'm afraid of that. I'm afraid that here in a second, I'm going to start fucking stuttering the stuttering and the whole world is going to know that I have all these issues. But that's when I see right now, "Okay, Goggins, you got to go on this fucking show." That's Goggins. Goggins is saying, "Okay, David Goggins, you're a punk. Life made you this way. We can't live like this. We can't live in fear. We can't live in judgment. We can't be afraid of what the fuck people right now are looking at me saying about me. We cannot be afraid of that. That's Goggins. Goggins saying, "Fuck all of you who don't like me, who don't want to…" And that person then comes in. But you have to be David Goggins and say, "Man, I'm afraid of this. I'm fucked up here. Life made me this way here. I stutter. I have these issues with reading and writing.

The Road of Insecurity (30:22)

I'm fat and I'm insecure." You have to face that in that dark room. In that dark room is who you are. But in that dark room is where you have to create another human being that walks out of that dark room to face who you are. That's the only way you're going to get over all those things. You have to create someone else. Not like you have two different personalities. It is you. But you have to find strength in that visualization of almost me cracking out Goggins. Almost like that Superman case. Like I'm coming out a different person, a person that doesn't give a fuck about anything who doesn't care about being judged. Who knows I'm weak. Who knows I'm afraid. Who says, "Whatever you think about me, take it. Whatever. I'm here." That's Goggins. In the dark room, you face yourself. You realize you want to be better. You realize you don't want to be this weak, insecure person in the world. He has all these problems that we all have. We all have. So, what it means is a great platform to tell you who we want to be. Not who we all. I'm deep in the cookie jar.

The cookie jar is something that I've made up of all the failures of my life. All the things that I was, I failed and I went back. I failed and I went back and I finally succeeded. All the things that kicked my ass. I put them on the cookie jar because at times of hell, even the hardest men in times of suffering, what we do is we forget how hard we really are. Because that's what suffering is. Suffering is a test. It's all it is. Suffering is a true test of life. So, that cookie jar travels in my brain. So, whenever I get put in a situation where I have poopy pants, the world was mean mentality of, "Oh my God, life sucks." I take a second. I take the one second decision. I step out of my life for one second, going to the cookie jar, pull up, "Oh, motherfucker, you were in three hell weeks and finished two." One of those hell weeks, a guy died and he was just so bad. "Oh, you are a motherfucker badass." You are.

Remembering Who You Really Are (32:28)

I put it back in the cookie jar and I remember who the fuck I really am. I'm not the kid that was called an egg. I'm not the scared kid. This is who I am. It's a reminder of who you truly are at the core of yourself. But what I was saying to myself the whole time on that track, and this is what I say to myself, "Self talk and visualization are two keys to my success." I believed for that last time, 19 miles, I was indestructible because I took myself in that chair, crapping up my back, peeing blood on my leg, shin splint, stretch fractures. I use all that for motivation versus negativity. I use it for motivation. I said to myself, "Who on this fucking earth would still be going right now? You are. You are. You got to be the hardest motherfucker on the planet. Is it true? I don't give a fuck. At that time, it got me to the finish line of that fucking race. I believed it. I believe it today. I believed it enough to where my body said, "He's not going to stop."

Overcoming his physical situation (33:39)

And that's I took all the negative things. I need to go to the hospital, this and that. I used all who the hell could even get out of that chair. You did. Who the hell would even think about taping stretch fractures up? You did. All those things I used for motivation. When you really sit back at your life and you're in that dark room and you're looking at where you started from and you tell yourself, "God, my mom is this way. My soonest stepdad got murdered. My dad beat the shit out of me. I can't read and write to say my fucking soul. I've lied about it to everybody. I've cheated on all these tests. My God, man." And then you put a goal in your mind. How are you going to feel, man, when you accomplish this goal coming from that shit? From the fucking hell you came from. A lot of people start from a good starting point. They have a good foundation. What if you can surpass all these motherfuckers? What if everybody who was fucking way up here started up here and you had, you started with no legs. You had to grow fucking legs. The team would start walking and then crawling and then running and then you start passing people and all this giving to them. I had to use all this negative shit that was making me weak and horrible as a person. I had to use this as the power that now fueled me. I had to flip it on his head and say, "Hold up. This might be exactly what I need. The darkness is exactly what I need. It's how you look at your situation." And I was looking at it all fucked up, having lived the life I've lived and seeing the other side not being afraid to attack what was in front of me has made me happy. Say that again. In fact, let me make sure I understood it. Getting to the point where you're not afraid to face the thing on the other side of the door that wants to attack you has made you happy. Right. Right. It's really powerful. I hope people heard that. Right. That made me very happy. Basically, I just don't walk around with a dad going to smile on my face all the day and I'm telling him. It's Christmas, but basically what the dark side is is we all have a cookie jar and we all have a jar of fuck. That's its official name. It's a jar of fuck, man. Where shit just is just ain't going right. In Hell Week, what they do in Hell Week, because this is where I really went to the dark side. What they do in Hell Week is they design Hell Week to find your flaws and they do a really good job of that. It's 130 hours of continuous training. You may get two hours of sleep and they beat the shit out of you and find everything wrong with your mentality and then they start Hell Week and that's the beauty of it. And for me, I'm not some not, you know, nasty guy, giving guy. You know, I don't have a great bit of talent in anything. So what got me through horrible times was the dark side was I created, my name is David Goggins. I created Goggins. Goggins is the guy that can take anything you put in front of them.

Harnessing Inner Strength And Finding Greatness

Using the "dark side" as fuel (37:00)

You want to break my mother fucking legs? So be it. I have a way of going to a place like I did in that race where all the pain and suffering that they put on top of me in Hell Week, I will reverse that pain and suffering and I will take your soul. So every instructor that put me through buzz, my job, what drove me was I wanted you to go home that night after you beat the living shit out of me and I smiled in your face. I wanted you to feel worse than I did and you would go home to a nice warm bed with your wife or your kids in a nice meal and I was still out there in the grip suffering for another 100 hours. I want you to think about me knowing that I'm comfortable being very unfucking comfortable and I want you to think about when you went through fucking Hell Week, how uncomfortable you were and how bad you wanted to quit knowing I'm not thinking that fucking way. So the dark side is something that I've designed, it's an evil place I can go that very few things can hurt me. I use the hurt you're trying to put on me, I flip it upside down and use it. You try to use it for Kryptonite? No. It's power pillows for me. I'm using it for strength. I just flip negative into positives. That's all it is. What do people come up to you and ask you the most? How do I do it? How am I able to do what I do on a daily basis? How do I fight the demons? Because they hear me speak and I'm very wrong and real. How do you fight my insecurities, all these things? And they're there every day. They're there every day. Like you said, I'm in a search for a feeling. I'm not in a search for a trophy. I'm not in a search for love. I'm not in a search for more followers on Instagram or social media. When I started this journey years ago and I realized that I'm going to be somebody and I'm searching for a feeling, a feeling of true victory for myself and only myself. The second I shut out the whole world and realized that one thing that I am in this world alone, I'm fighting this race by myself. Yeah, I'm all about people. I'm all about team. I'm all about that shit. But I'm really all about right now and in my life. Just like you said, no one knows the real truth about me. How hard I really go. I don't care if anybody knows. I don't want anybody to know.

I'm an Introvert (39:39)

I'm an introvert. I live an introverted life and I love that about me. That right there is my fuel. I know that there's really no one out there grinding like me. And if they are, so be it. If I know about you, I'll make sure that up my gang. That's what the mentality is all about. My whole thing is a mentality thing. Like I told you in the last time I was on the show, I viewed myself as the weakest person on the planet earth. My goal in life was to, in my mind, believe I'm the hardest man alive. And that's why the whole thing is can't hurt me. That's what it's about. It's about whatever you think you are, you have to make that dream a reality. But that's where the hard part is. Is making that dream reality. That's where the hard work comes. That's where people know how do you keep grinding every day. You have to make those insecurities, those fears. Like when I was 300 pounds, I didn't have any drive. I'm going to be a Navy. What kind of stupid shit is that? 300 pounds. There wasn't like a drive to go be a Navy. I was an insecure, lying kid, afraid. I had to look at my insecurities in my fear and find drive in that. We all looking for passion. Passion is all around you. You have a whole, a whole fucking stack of it all around you. It's your insecurities, all that shit. You got to dive deep in that shit. It's all in there. All the energy and fuel you need is right in yourself. It's all there. You got a lot of stuff to do to overcome. That's where I found it. I found it right there in my own insecurities. I found drive in my own insecurities. That's the most powerful thing in the world. When you can find drive in your own doubt, fear, insecurities, you become very unstoppable. You may have just changed me at a deep and fundamental level. I've never thought about it like that. The number one question I get asked is how do I find my passion to which the answer is very rudimentary and maybe ultimately not as true and powerful as what you just said. There's another thing I need to tie this to that you talk about in the book, which is people have lost touch with their bodies.

Lost Touch with Their Bodies (41:57)

You always tell people if you want to change, go do something physically fucking demanding. Go find yourself in the suffering and in the pain of doing something with your body. It is utterly fascinating to me. It's just hitting me now. I'd never heard you say that before. I'll reserve final judgment for round three when we come back together. The thought of you feel lost, you feel insecure, you don't have a passion, you don't know what to do, you're reaching out to somebody, you need that help, you know you could do more, be more. The answer is in the last interview we did, you called it the bag of fuck, if I remember right? Reach into the bag of fuck and start changing those one by one. That may be the most extraordinary piece of advice I've ever heard. In fact, I will say the way it's hitting me right now, that's the single most extraordinary piece of advice for self-transformation I've ever heard. It's the truth. Who is sitting here right now today? This is the real me, obviously. But I'm a very philosophical person and I'm going to go there with you real quick. I believe in higher power. Don't know the name, don't know where it's coming from, don't even think like that. But I believe that this power and visualizing me real quick, let's say it's a man up there, a woman, whatever, and they have a chart. When you're born, they say David Goggins, born February 17th, 1975 at 6 a.m. They write the chart down because they can see everything. They know exactly what you're supposed to be. They know what you're supposed to be. You die, you go to so-called heaven. You arrive at heaven, I'm 300 pounds. I retired as an eco lab guy, which is okay, just a job, whatever.

Outwork the Chart (43:54)

I go up there and God looks at me and he shows in my chart. And my chart on there says you were supposed to be a Navy Seal. You're supposed to be a Hern 85 pounds. You're supposed to be one of the smartest people in the plant. You see this. And now you're in heaven, you're made to heaven, but you're like, "God, Doug, I was supposed to live that life. I was supposed to live that life." And then you find out that the reason why, because we all think that if we pray on it, if we do this, if we do that, whatever, if we don't work, we just, whatever, it's going to magically happen for us. No, I believe that when I'm all sitting done with, my whole job is to outwork the chart. Whatever the fucking chart says about me, the all knowing power up there, I want to get up there and say, "Him, look at me," and say, "I know everything. I didn't fucking see this. I didn't fucking see this. I want to feel that. I want to get to the other end of this fucking world. And however I'm being judged, whoever's judging me to look at me and say, "I did not fucking know. I had you at 185. I had you at this, but all this other shit I was riding as you were living it. I want to find more. All I can." And in that fucking sack of shit, you have to dive in that to find more. Because if you're not willing to go in there and face yourself, you're not going to find anything. You're going to live right here on surface, man, right here on surface. So if there is an ending to this world, and there is somewhere to go, and there's a judgment, you're going to get there and you might see a chart, and that chart may tell you who the fuck you should have been, and now you get the rest of your life to think about that. I mean, I could have lived a much better life. I just would have just suffered a little bit more. If I just would have went in that shit and realized I had so much more, but fear and the 40% and living here versus living here, being afraid, stopped me. So that's, I'm a big guy in visualizing. I'm a big guy in making a world. It may not exist. To me it does. To me it does. And I'm overpowering myself every day. And you got to find tools to do that. That's the tool that I use. The most important conversation you will ever have in your fucking life is the one you have with yourself. You wake up with it, you walk around with it, you go to bed with it, eventually you're going to act on it. Whether you're good or bad. You have to, that's why the whole thing about this book I have is about you. It is about you. It's strictly about you finding who you are. So many people die live a hundred years. Never fucking know who they are. Never know who they are. You have to look in that mirror and know there's so much more in here, man. Because I can literally right now be a 300 pound guy spraying for cockroaches still this day. If I did not look in that mirror and say there has to be more to this. This can't be it. Civilizing is something where people, it's a comfortable world. A lot of us say, you know, like for instance, I see these athletes right now who retire. You know, I'm 38. You know, I'm 39. I did 20 years at the top of my game and I'm chilling out now. You see them a year later and how they look. What the hell just happened to you, dude? What the hell? You're one of the greatest athletes of all time. Kids looked up to you. Women, men of all ages looked up to you and they hit the pinnacle where it's time to retire and their mind says, I'm civilized. The worst thing that could ever happen to any human being is they become civilized. It's that total accountability. Like even when you're retired, there's a motherfucker looking at me and judging me right now, man. I was the baddest person to ever live. It doesn't go away, man. You got to wake up even though you retired. You never retired. You're setting the example every single day of your life and being civilized, feeling so good. You're like, hey, man, once you get to the top, you may retire, but you ain't never coming back home, man. Now you're judged. People see you falling off. You want to be that guy who knows I may be retired from the sport or forever I did, but I'd be damn if you ever see me looking like shit, feeling like shit, not arriving. People I've arrived. I've arrived mentality. You're always setting the example. Civilization feels so good. These comfortable feelings are what people want. They want retirement. They want that. They need that. It's a yearning feeling. I want it too. People love putting a label on me about, my God, man, you're just wired different. I'm not fucking wired different, dude. I'm thinking right now, after I got past my stuttering thing, now I'm on a roll, I'm good now. Know what I'm thinking about right now? I got to fucking wake up tomorrow and do the same shit again. I got to leave this fucking interview and go stretch out for two and a half hours. I hate that shit. How do you find and cultivate that drive?

How to Start Finding Granularity (49:36)

There is a kid right now watching this man and they feel like you felt they feel lost, alone, broken, stupid, lazy. They're never going to amount to anything. What you're talking about is the closest saying to a fucking superpower that this kid has ever heard and right now he's on the edge of his seat. How does he force himself to take that first step? I'm very fortunate that I grew up at a time when there was no phones and there was no social media. I suggest, yes, I'm on social media on a very limited basis because I have a story to tell and it's a great platform. Use it as a platform. Don't use it as your life. My biggest advice to give everybody in the world is, like I say, we live in an external world. Everything is, you got to see it, touch it. It's external. If you can for the rest of your life live inside of yourself, stop listening to people who are calling you fat, gay, transsexual, nigger, everything that is makes no sense. All these insecure people putting their insecure on you, you got to flush it out. You got to just be whoever the hell God or whatever the hell you believe in. If you believe in nothing but yourself, I don't care what it is. You got to take everything and throw it away. You have to believe in one thing and that is yourself. I'm not saying don't believe in God or what you believe in, but right now for you to find greatness in yourself, you're not going to find it by looking in a book or by even hearing me. I may give you the spark, but you've got to go inside yourself to find it. That means you got to be quiet. You got to fuck up, go in a room, stop talking, search your soul, search your mind, search your abilities and you'll find it. But if you're not looking for it, you won't find it. So you got to go start your journey and the journey starts you finding why the hell am I here on this planet earth? Why am I here? If you don't know that you will live the rest of your life searching, always asking the question, why? If you don't know who you are. If you don't know who you are, I can't tell you who you are. What's the next phase of your life look like? You can't imagine how intrigued I am to watch you over the next five to ten years.

Finding greatness inside you (51:56)

Well, honestly, I'm blessed enough to have survived the life I lived and to come out the other side with a bunch of knowledge. So hopefully, I can help people that believe that they're much less than what they truly are, help them find greatness in themselves. And greatness isn't running 200 miles at a time or doing 4,000 pulps or being a seal. Greatness is whatever the hell you dreamed of in your own mind. You got to first see it. You got to first create this vision in your mind. And then that's when I come into play. Once you create this vision in your mind, it's how am I going to get there now? And that's when I come into play. But first, you got to create your own vision. And then it's not external. It's the vision created is inside of you. Most of this generation quits the second they get talked to. You did this wrong. You did this wrong or they get yelled at. It's so easy to be great nowadays because everybody else's, most people are weak. This is a softened generation. So if you have any mental toughness, any ability, if you have any fraction of self-discipline, the ability to not want to do it but still do it, people have a hard thing to understand. I hate to run. And it makes me so crazy. It doesn't anymore. People go, "Well, why do you run if you hate it? What are you talking about?" I don't want to take showers and eat either. I hate that too.

Overcoming Challenges And Living A Vision-Based Life

Getting through things you hate (53:30)

That's a life, man. It wasn't until I changed that mentality that I became somebody. I hated going to school. So guess what? I was dumb as shit. That's what one plus one is too. But if you can get through to doing things that you hate to do on the other side is greatness. That's what people understand. By me running, I am callous in my mind. I'm not training for a race. I'm training for life. I'm training for the time when I get that two o'clock in the morning call that my mom is dead or something happens tragic in life, I don't fall apart. I'm training my mind and my body and my spirit. So it's all one so I can handle what life is going to throw at me because the life I've lived, it throws a whole bunch at you. And if you're not physically, immensely prepared for that, you're just going to crumble and you're good for nobody. You said, "I can be me."

Moving (54:27)

The second you said, "I can cuss and be me." And cussing, people are saying, "Man, you cuss all the fucking time. Why?" Well, I hate to say it the best way for me to get how I feel across. I can't say it and say, "You know what? I went through a whole week and man, it was really hard." No, that motherfucker takes your damn soul, rips it inside out, and then they say, "Now we're going to fucking start." It allows me to express where I was at at a point of my life. If I don't give you all of me, why the hell am I here? Why? How will you learn from me? People take so much offense to me. You will never learn from people if we always tap dance around the truth. Oh, God, I love that. We tap dance around the truth by finding the right words. I don't hurt you because you have thin skin. No, tighten up, people. It's okay. Trust me. It's okay. You might be called nigger one day. It's okay. You might be called some Jewish word or some faggot or gay word. It's okay. Let them call you that. What are you going to do now? They don't own your life. How are you going to control that now? How are you going to flip it upside down and say, "Roger that. Now I'm going to harness this shit and you'll read about me years from now." How? That's the question. How are you going to do that? Thicken your skin. Become more of a human being. Don't be afraid of the reflection in the mirror because that's all you can be afraid of. Once you overcome the reflection in the mirror, you've done it. The image in my mind of a man was not one that had earrings, saggy pants. I had this image in my head and I was going to fulfill that. I didn't do any trends. I stopped trending. I stopped being this guy who whatever was new. Fuck it. That's not what I believe in. I'm doing this. What I want to be this is what I'm going to be. That's incredible. How do you experience beauty and joy in your life? What situations do you put yourself in? What makes you laugh? What's the fun stuff for you? It's funny you say that. I just retired from the military in November of 2015. I was going and going and going and going. I never really, I was a happy guy but I'm never in the moment of like sitting back and I want to travel here to have fun and do this and that. I've never been that person. The first time I really got a chance to experience true happiness and true peace was I was like, so what I did to myself to become who I am today, it takes a great toll on your body. I believe God gave me time to rest and he took me out of commission.

21 Truths About Living A Painful Life (57:26)

Not even the minds of God or could get me back up. I had about a good six, seven months when I was out and when I was out I had time to reflect on all I had accomplished. That was the first time in my life where I sat back and said, "Wow." Only I may be telling you some of the story. I know the exact truth of how brutal my life was and how I shouldn't be on this show. This show today and how the mind and how beautiful it is. What brings me joy and happiness is knowing how beautiful the mind is and I'm one of the few people that didn't read about it, didn't experience it through some drug. I got to experience the beauty of true fucking willpower. True fuck you. I'm going to fail. I'm going to fucking fail. I'm going to fucking fail. I'm going to fucking fail and I will succeed. Just me talking about that gives me a feeling. I know what I did and I don't need to travel somewhere or to have this or have that. I have it all here in my mind. The beauty is remembering this young dumb what people call nigger is now where I'm at today. That is when you finally get to that point for me, it's forever lasting peace. I can die right now on this show and I'll be happy, ma'am. We are all great. No matter if you think you're dumb, no matter if you think you're fat, no matter if you are fat, no matter if you've been bullied or no matter if you just got back from my rack of Afghanistan and you have no legs or your arms or whatever, man, we all have greatness. You got to find the courage. You got to find the courage to put your bow's headphones on and silence the noise out of this world and to find it. And to find it because it's out there, but it's going to take hard work, courage, self-discipline. It's going to take all the non-cognitive skills. All the non-cognitive skills to be great. Smart is good. All this stuff is good. That's all cognitive. It's the non-cognitive skills that sets you apart from everybody else. And that's what it's all about. I had a moment in front of all these great American heroes where I had a chance. It was so fast. It went through me like lightning of I can't believe I'm here. I can't believe I'm getting the award like this, that kid who was in the fetal position, the majority of his life. And so much the fact that my body and my hip flexors are tight to this day, that even though I was standing erect, my mind was in the fetal position. When I looked out amongst all those people, it was a sense of pride that I can't even explain. It's the moments of three hell weeks. It's the moments of in that room by myself studying for hours and hours and hours and I was trying to catch up with all the kids who were above me. It's just those moments, the real, raw moments of life that was like boom, hit me and we're gone. But I was like, I did that. I overcame that shit. It was like, it's his power behind all that shit. And that's the feeling I was looking for in my life. I found it wasn't money, it wasn't fame, it wasn't awards. It was that feeling of hell right now. I'm about to break down, but it's not of like, oh my God, I'm upset. I worked myself so hard that I turned a person, this fucked up into this motherfucker right here.

Play with a bigger vision (01:01:42)

Not off of reading a fucking book off a theorist, off of going to work on myself and saying, I don't know how to do this, but I know that to get over there to that fucking side, I got to grind myself into a fucking fine power. And I did it. I did it off a sure will and very few people will know how that feels. Very few. I want you to realize that this world, life is one big head game. And once you learn to play the motherfucking head game, it's no longer a game anymore at all. You can start living your life. All of that. David, thank you so much for coming over. Thank you. Thank you. My God. By this book, I read it. It is extraordinary. It is one of the most amazing manuals for how to change your life ever. And just this interview, I think, could be transformative for some people.

Understanding The Value Of Personal Worth Over Material Wealth

If you're nothing without money then you'll be nothing with money (01:02:58)

And the book goes into so much more detail and really reaches into you and shows you how to do it in your own life. He helps you find that 3.144 for you so that you can go out and do the things that you need to do. But the things that I hope that you take away from him, be honest with yourself, be raw, but understand that you can fix it. Stop tolerating mediocrity. You have to detest mediocrity in your life. And you have to understand the only way you're going to meet yourself is through pain and suffering. You can become a master of suffering. The things that you can do with your life are truly unlimited. You can truly break free of all of the limiting beliefs that you've put on yourself. Your circumstances put on you, your family has put on you, experts have put on you, whoever it is, you can get rid of all of that and completely blow your own mind with what you're capable of. And one day, you will have a shirt that instead of saying what would goggings do, you'll be asking what would I do? Because you're the right person to ask. And when you get to that point, nothing will ever be the same. Get the book. Alright guys, if you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. And until next time, my friends, be legendary. Take care. David, you're a new motherfucker. That was so fun. Hey everybody, thank you so much for watching and being a part of this community. And if you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. You're going to get weekly videos on building a growth mindset, cultivating grit and unlocking your full potential.

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